From: Igor Fedotov <ifedotov@mirantis.com>
To: Sage Weil <sweil@redhat.com>
Cc: Gregory Farnum <gfarnum@redhat.com>,
ceph-devel <ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Adding Data-At-Rest compression support to Ceph
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 19:14:01 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56042149.60409@mirantis.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1509240900540.13265@cobra.newdream.net>
On 24.09.2015 19:03, Sage Weil wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Sep 2015, Igor Fedotov wrote:
>
>>
>> There is probably no need in strict alignment with the stripe size. We can use
>> block sizes that client provides on write dynamically. If some client writes
>> in stripes - then we compress that block. If others use larger blocks ( e.g.
>> caching agent on flush) - we can use that size or split the provided block
>> into several smaller chunks ( e.g. up to max N*stripe_size ) for overhead
>> reduction on random read. Even if client uses dynamic block sizes ( low level
>> RADOS use?) we can rely on them some way without static bind to stripe size.
>> Surely this is much easier when appends are permitted only. General "random
>> writes" case will be more complex.
> Dynamic stripe sizes are possible but it's a significant change from the
> way the EC pool currently works. I would make that a separate project (as
> its useful in its own right) and not complicate the compression situation.
>
> Or, if it simplifies the compression approach, then I'd make that change
> first.
My point was rather about the lack of need to depend on stripe size for
compression than about the need for dynamic stripes.
As far as I understand clients can write data using blocks larger then
stripe size, e.g. several stripes together. Is that correct?
At least I could see that for cache flush and low-level RADOS access.
So we can compress every written block independently - if it has stripe
size - that's OK - compress it as-is. if it's larger - let's compress
the whole block or split into less ones and compress them independently.
Thus I think there is no explicit need for additional changes in Ceph
for doing compression.
Thanks,
Igor.
> sage
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-24 16:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-22 17:04 Adding Data-At-Rest compression support to Ceph Igor Fedotov
2015-09-22 19:11 ` Sage Weil
2015-09-23 12:47 ` Igor Fedotov
2015-09-23 13:15 ` Sage Weil
2015-09-23 14:05 ` Gregory Farnum
2015-09-23 15:26 ` Igor Fedotov
2015-09-23 17:31 ` Samuel Just
2015-09-24 15:34 ` Igor Fedotov
2015-09-23 18:03 ` Gregory Farnum
2015-09-24 15:13 ` Igor Fedotov
2015-09-24 15:34 ` Sage Weil
2015-09-24 15:41 ` HEWLETT, Paul (Paul)
2015-09-24 16:00 ` Igor Fedotov
2015-09-24 15:56 ` Igor Fedotov
2015-09-24 16:03 ` Sage Weil
2015-09-24 16:14 ` Igor Fedotov [this message]
2015-09-24 16:25 ` Igor Fedotov
2015-09-24 17:36 ` Robert LeBlanc
2015-09-24 17:53 ` Samuel Just
2015-09-25 11:59 ` Igor Fedotov
2015-09-25 14:14 ` Sage Weil
2015-09-28 16:56 ` Igor Fedotov
2015-09-24 18:10 ` Gregory Farnum
2015-09-25 13:16 ` Igor Fedotov
2015-09-23 14:08 ` Igor Fedotov
2015-09-23 14:37 ` Sage Weil
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