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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Cc: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] target-i386: Use 1UL for bit shift
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 19:30:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <560D6DBD.9010305@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <560D6857.1030501@redhat.com>



On 01/10/2015 19:07, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> > In addition, C89 didn't say at all what the result was for signed data
> > types, so technically we could compile QEMU with -std=gnu89 (the default
> > until GCC5) and call it a day.
> > 
> > Really the C standard should make this implementation-defined.
> 
> Obligatory link: http://blog.regehr.org/archives/1180

Many ideas in there are good (e.g. mem*() being defined for invalid
argument and zero lengths, and of course item 7 which is the issue at
hand).  In many cases it's also good to change undefined behavior to
unspecified values, however I think that goes too far.

For example I'm okay with signed integer overflow being undefined
behavior, and I also disagree with "It is permissible to compute
out-of-bounds pointer values including performing pointer arithmetic on
the null pointer".  Using uintptr_t is just fine.

Also strict aliasing improves performance noticeably at least on some
kind of code.  The relaxation of strict aliasing that GCC does with
unions would be a useful addition to the C standard, though.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-01 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-29 20:34 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] target-i386: Fix undefined behavior on bit shifts Eduardo Habkost
2015-09-29 20:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] target-i386: Use 1UL for bit shift Eduardo Habkost
2015-09-30 13:27   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-30 20:24     ` Richard Henderson
2015-10-01  8:29       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-01  9:24       ` Peter Maydell
2015-10-01 13:52         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-01 17:07           ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-01 17:30             ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2015-10-01 17:38               ` Peter Maydell
2015-10-01 19:17                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-02  8:34                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-02 11:14                     ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-02 12:07                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-04  2:34                         ` Kevin O'Connor
2015-10-01 20:35                 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-01 18:40               ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-02  8:48                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-29 20:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] target-i386: Don't left shift negative constant Eduardo Habkost
2015-10-01  1:35   ` Richard Henderson
2015-10-01 17:06     ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-10-23 15:07       ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-10-23 18:20         ` Richard Henderson

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