From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1ZkiSu-0005uu-LQ for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 20:56:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42460) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkWW0-0007v4-9h for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 08:11:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkWVx-0003ol-0e for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 08:11:12 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]:37257) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkWVw-0003oh-R6 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 08:11:08 -0400 Received: by wicfx3 with SMTP id fx3so64009219wic.0 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 05:11:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=KaCwZzJJC1RUF+AQGglyteIPTxRQNfVVWmK1Oc/kbzc=; b=dtCf1YnWk2A/IiDpYiF0/LhAcVLeYPdayeHMfKo6ntf1oMFsHcH5cXMd0YQkpCHxZ4 gNMqXJsKp8mAnaD1UEDrW5eFeA3kzsvCzzkqV8eHjDpaETVPMSRxuG089SE7c4GWjOoX 7z/Z/3w5vPWP0VX0Re7pxQ7SxuKUq28DDb/GxgqTIKWttSqzFWZpeN8Ac4/DVjN9c0Bq ddX5FVhT9lflNfa5bn/IFH0x27zz6hAvv7sM4JfDZzsybjarGI6OTZMnCA1EoMz2pDGe Os/WIME6YBZA43s6v7Tqmr2NT/ZOjeC63kIIQd00xUi4O4fVkgoLLigTol9wlcp+QbCf KPhA== X-Received: by 10.180.76.170 with SMTP id l10mr10887920wiw.68.1444392667923; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 05:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.119.6.25] ([83.143.7.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id xt1sm1749905wjb.32.2015.10.09.05.11.06 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 09 Oct 2015 05:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: GNU GRUB maintenance To: The development of GNU GRUB References: <56158B2B.6040205@gmail.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Vladimir_'=cf=86-coder/phcoder'_Serbinenko?= X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <5617AECF.6080405@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 14:10:55 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qxqpp4Sq6icea8o5SDVMBxKdE7iO6MAnE" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GNU GRUB List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2015 12:11:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --qxqpp4Sq6icea8o5SDVMBxKdE7iO6MAnE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08.10.2015 16:52, Andrei Borzenkov wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Vladimir '=CF=86-coder/phcoder' Serbin= enko > wrote: >> Hello, all. I'm sorry for not being available to do enough maintenance= >> for GRUB in last time but I was overbooked. Yet there is a good news. = At >> Google there is a 20% project and GRUB has been approved as 20% projec= t >> for me. The goal is to have 2.02 released before the end of this year.= >> Other than the raw lack of time there is another issue which makes >> maintenance difficult: inefficient VCS. >=20 > VCS is actually OK. The project of size Linux kernel seems to work > well using pull request e-mails. The disadvantages are >=20 > - contributors must have repository available via Internet > - contributors are trusted to actually submit pull request for branch > that was reviewed > - it needs to be done locally and pushed >=20 >> It requires me o= r someone with >> privileges manually copy the patch. What other systems would be ok? It= >> obviously has to be a free software and hosted on free software-friend= ly >> hosting. It also has to have an efficient 1-click merge (so that someo= ne >> with privileges can get any patch submitted to the system merged in >> couple of clicks). >> >> >=20 > It does not like like we have much choice. If we speak about free > external hosting, this is probably github, gerrithub, gitlab. I do not > know if any of them is considered friendly enough by FSF. >=20 > If we speak about self hosting, then it is probably gerrit and > reviewboard (I wish we could join KDE reviewboard, but grub hardly can > be called KDE application ... :) ) >=20 > I am not thrilled by github workflows. From what I could gather > gerrithub looks more appealing, but would love to hear from someone > who actually used both. >=20 I spoke with Stefan Reinauer and he proposed to host us at review.coreboot.org if we don't generate too much traffic. I had positive experiences with their gerrit except that some functions are broken on mobile. I'd like to be able to review from phone but it's not a hard requirement. > One problem is that none of them apparently allows reviewing by > E-Mail. This worked (and probably works, just I'm no more involved) > quite well in KDE reviewboard. This means all review must be done via > web. For me it is rather disadvantage. That's a disadvantage but I believe that being able to get changes merged quickly outweights this disadvantage. > Also merged requests are > removed, which means history and past discussions are no more present. They're kept on review.coreboot.org case > Which again is better using e-mail review. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Grub-devel mailing list > Grub-devel@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel >=20 --qxqpp4Sq6icea8o5SDVMBxKdE7iO6MAnE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREKAAYFAlYXrtgACgkQmBXlbbo5nOtgDAEAqmSzHnXFoQxCthD3fGomO7vR /tlEbRq2/3YCBGGbJ+YA/RXexYmF//DarOzfJwAYU1TrChdVSv/7w1NU2NLTo5Df =Lc5u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qxqpp4Sq6icea8o5SDVMBxKdE7iO6MAnE--