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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: wei.liu2@citrix.com, ian.campbell@citrix.com,
	ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com, mpohlack@amazon.de,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] Add build-id to XENVER hypercall.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 13:15:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5617AFEE.4090908@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5617943C02000078000A99B8@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>

On 09/10/15 09:17, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 09.10.15 at 04:56, <konrad.wilk@oracle.com> wrote:
>> However they also change the behavior of the existing hypercall
>> for XENVER_[compile_info|changeset|commandline] and make them
>> dom0 accessible. This is if XSM is built in or not (though with
>> XSM one can expose it to a guest if desired).
> Wasn't the outcome of the previous discussion that we should not
> alter default behavior for existing sub-ops?

I raised a worry that some guests might break if they suddenly have
access to this information cut off.

> And even if I'm
> misremembering, I can see reasons for not exposing the command
> line, but what value has not exposing compile info and changeset
> again?

There is a fear that providing such information makes it easier for
attackers who have an exploit for a specific binary.

> The more that the tool stack uses the two, and as we know
> tool stacks or parts thereof can live in unprivileged domains.

I would argue than a fully unprivileged toolstack domain has no need for
any information from this hypercall.  It it needs some privilege, then
XSM is in use and it can be given access.

> Plus
> there is also a (hg-centric and hence generally broken) attempt to
> store it in hvm_save().

I will be addressing this in due course with my further cpuid plans.

~Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-09 12:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-09  2:56 [PATCH v1] Add build-id to XENVER hypercall Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-09  2:56 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] xsm/libxl/xen_version: Add XSM for some of the xen_version commands Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-09  9:31   ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-30 10:24     ` Martin Pohlack
2015-10-09 12:20   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-30 10:24   ` Martin Pohlack
2015-10-09  2:56 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] xen-version: Add third parameter (len) to the do_version hypercall Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-09  8:25   ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 12:29     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-09 12:46       ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-09 12:58         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-09 14:38         ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 14:48           ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-28 17:55           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-28 18:34             ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-28 18:58               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-29  9:06               ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09  2:56 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] XENVER_build_id: Provide ld-embedded build-ids Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-09  9:35   ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-09 11:40   ` Martin Pohlack
2015-10-09 12:47   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-09 15:18   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-06 18:07     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-09  2:56 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] libxl: info: Display build_id of the hypervisor Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-09  9:36   ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-09 12:59   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-09 13:06     ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-09 13:11       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-09 13:14       ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-09 13:16   ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-09  8:17 ` [PATCH v1] Add build-id to XENVER hypercall Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 12:15   ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2015-10-09 13:25     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-09 15:14       ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-28 15:42         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-28 19:00           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-29  8:55             ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-29 19:47               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-30  8:11                 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 14:32     ` Jan Beulich

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