From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751802AbbJQTBj (ORCPT ); Sat, 17 Oct 2015 15:01:39 -0400 Received: from h1446028.stratoserver.net ([85.214.92.142]:36694 "EHLO mail.ahsoftware.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750851AbbJQTBi (ORCPT ); Sat, 17 Oct 2015 15:01:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/14] init: deps: order network interfaces by link order To: Linus Torvalds References: <1445102067-11519-1-git-send-email-holler@ahsoftware.de> <1445102067-11519-5-git-send-email-holler@ahsoftware.de> <5622956F.80408@ahsoftware.de> Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List , Andrew Morton , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Russell King , Grant Likely From: Alexander Holler Message-ID: <56229B0B.80100@ahsoftware.de> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 21:01:31 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Am 17.10.2015 um 20:52 schrieb Linus Torvalds: > On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Alexander Holler wrote: >> >> I'm making dependencies the only ordering for annotated initcalls. > > Yeah, and quite frankly, that just means that I'm not going to merge it. > > We do not do "flag-day" things. We've done them in the past, and it > has always been a major and unacceptable pain. That isn't a flag day thing. It's a config option everyone can turn on and off whenever he wants. > > And if the dependency ordering is "outside" of the traditional > link-time ordering, then it is by definition a flag-day event. Every > time you add a dependency to even just *one* driver, it magically > changes ordering wrt all the other drivers, because now it's in a > different ordering domain. > > So please reconsider. Or stop cc'ing me. Because "flag day" changes > really are not acceptable. I'm choosing the second option. I will answer further mails on that topic, but will remove you from cc. Besides that I consider these patches as a total failure and will not post any further version. Alexander Holler