On 2015-10-21 07:51, Austin S Hemmelgarn wrote: > On 2015-10-20 15:59, Austin S Hemmelgarn wrote: >> On 2015-10-20 15:20, Duncan wrote: >>> Yes, there's some small but not infinitesimal chance the checksum may be >>> wrong, but if there's two copies of the data and the checksum on one is >>> wrong while the checksum on the other verifies... yes, there's still >>> that >>> small chance that the one that verifies is wrong too, but that it's any >>> worse than the one that does not verify? /That's/ getting close to >>> infinitesimal, or at least close enough for the purposes of a mailing- >>> list claim without links to supporting evidence by someone who has >>> already characterized it as not mathematically rigorous... and for me, >>> personally. I'm not spending any serious time thinking about getting >>> hit >>> by lightening, either, tho by the same token I don't go out flying kites >>> or waving long metal rods around in lightning storms, either. >> With a 32-bit checksum and a 4k block (the math is easier with smaller >> numbers), that's 4128 bits, which means that a random single bit error >> will have a approximately 0.24% chance of occurring in a given bit, >> which translates to an approximately 7.75% chance that it will occur in >> one of the checksum bits. For a 16k block it's smaller of course >> (around 1.8% I think, but that's just a guess), but it's still >> sufficiently statistically likely that it should be considered. > As mentioned in my other reply to this, I did the math wrong (bit of a > difference between kilobit and kilobyte) And I realize of course right after sending this that my other reply didn't get through because GMail refuses to send mail in plain text, no matter how hard I beat it over the head...