From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 05/17] qapi: Unbox base members
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 15:16:59 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <562800CB.10108@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pp08ny5g.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>
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On 10/21/2015 07:34 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>> @@ -218,9 +216,11 @@ static void channel_event(int event,
>>>> SpiceChannelEventInfo *info)
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> if (info->flags & SPICE_CHANNEL_EVENT_FLAG_ADDR_EXT) {
>>>> - add_addr_info(client->base, (struct sockaddr *)&info->paddr_ext,
>>>> + add_addr_info((SpiceBasicInfo *)client,
>>>
>>> Ah, you're already exploiting the ability to cast to the base type!
>>
>> Absolutely :)
>>
>>>
>>> Idea: should we generate a type-safe macro or inline function for this?
>>
>> Hmm. DO_UPCAST() (and its more powerful underlying container_of())
>> doesn't fit here, because we inlined the fields rather than directly
>> including the base.
>
> Yes, because it results in slightly more readable code: always simply
> p->m instead of things like p->base.base.m when m is inherited (which is
> usually of no concern when it's used).
>
>> There's also the ugly approach of exposing things in a dual naming
>> system via an anonymous union and struct:
>>
>> struct Child {
>> union {
>> struct {
>> int i;
>> };
>> Parent base;
>> };
>> bool b;
>> };
>>
>> which would allow 'child->i' to be the same storage as 'child->base.i',
>> so that clients can use the short spelling when accessing fields but
>> also have handy access to the base member for DO_UPCAST(). I'm not sure
>> I want to go there, though.
>
> Seems to clever for its own sake :)
I agree (and even though I'm using a similar hack in 7/17 for the same
purpose, I get rid of it as soon as possible in 16/17).
>> But while such a representation would add compiler type-safety (hiding
>> the cast in generated code, where we can prove the generator knew it was
>> safe, and so that clients don't have to cast), it also adds verbosity.
>> I can't think of any representation that would be shorter than making
>> the clients do the cast, short of using a container rather than inline
>> approach. Even foo(qapi_baseof_Child(child), blah) is longer than
>> foo((Parent *)child, blah).
>>
>> Preferences?
>
> The least verbose naming convention for a conversion function I can
> think of right now is TBase(), where T is the name of a type with a
> base. Compare:
>
> foo((Parent *)child, blah)
> foo(ChildBase(child), blah)
>
> Tolerable? Worthwhile?
The verbosity is then determined by how long the child name is (where
the cast depended on the parent name)
What happens with multiple inheritance?
If we have Grandparent -> Parent -> Child, then it should be possible to
cast to both bases:
(Grandparent *)child
(Parent *)child
with your scheme, getting a child to grandparent would have to look like
either of:
ParentBase(ChildBase(child))
ChildBaseBase(child)
Or, think what happens if we originally have Grandparent -> Child in one
version of qemu, then inject Parent in the middle in another - the QMP
can still be back-compat, and the direct casts and member variable
references in C still work, but any code using ChildBase() no longer
works (returning Parent* instead of Grandparent*).
So the only thing I can think of is to output some name that includes
both the child type and parent type name (to make it obvious which
conversion is being done):
qapi_Child_Grandparent(child)
qapi_Child_Parent(child)
At this point, I'm leaning towards client casts, just because of the
verbosity, but I'll at least try the generated type-safe functions in
v10 to see how bad it really is. A patch to discuss will make it easier
to decide whether to paint this bikeshed.
--
Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org
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Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-16 4:15 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 00/17] qapi collision reduction (post-introspection subset B') Eric Blake
2015-10-16 4:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 01/17] qapi: Add tests for reserved name abuse Eric Blake
2015-10-19 16:05 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-20 16:23 ` Eric Blake
2015-10-21 12:08 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-16 4:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 02/17] qapi: Reserve '*List' type names for arrays Eric Blake
2015-10-19 16:14 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-20 18:12 ` Eric Blake
2015-10-16 4:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 03/17] qapi: Reserve 'u' and 'has[-_]*' member names Eric Blake
2015-10-19 17:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-20 21:29 ` Eric Blake
2015-10-21 13:08 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-16 4:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 04/17] vnc: hoist allocation of VncBasicInfo to callers Eric Blake
2015-10-20 7:38 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-20 8:54 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-10-20 14:46 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-20 22:53 ` Eric Blake
2015-10-21 11:02 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-21 11:16 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-10-23 13:13 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-20 22:56 ` Eric Blake
2015-10-16 4:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 05/17] qapi: Unbox base members Eric Blake
2015-10-16 19:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 05.5/17] fixup to " Eric Blake
2015-10-20 12:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 05/17] " Markus Armbruster
2015-10-20 16:08 ` Eric Blake
2015-10-21 13:34 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-21 21:16 ` Eric Blake [this message]
2015-10-22 6:28 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-23 1:50 ` Eric Blake
2015-10-23 6:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-16 4:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 06/17] qapi-visit: Remove redundant functions for flat union base Eric Blake
2015-10-21 17:36 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-21 19:01 ` Eric Blake
2015-10-22 8:32 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-16 4:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 07/17] qapi: Start converting to new qapi union layout Eric Blake
2015-10-22 13:54 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-22 14:09 ` Eric Blake
2015-10-22 14:44 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-16 4:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 08/17] tests: Convert " Eric Blake
2015-10-22 14:01 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-22 14:22 ` Eric Blake
2015-10-22 14:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-16 4:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 09/17] block: " Eric Blake
2015-10-16 4:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 10/17] nbd: " Eric Blake
2015-10-16 4:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 11/17] net: " Eric Blake
2015-10-16 4:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 12/17] char: " Eric Blake
2015-10-16 4:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 13/17] input: " Eric Blake
2015-10-16 4:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 14/17] memory: " Eric Blake
2015-10-16 4:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 15/17] tpm: " Eric Blake
2015-10-22 14:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-22 14:26 ` Eric Blake
2015-10-22 16:40 ` Eric Blake
2015-10-23 6:24 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-16 4:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 16/17] qapi: Finish converting " Eric Blake
2015-10-22 14:50 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-16 4:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 17/17] qapi: Simplify gen_struct_field() Eric Blake
2015-10-22 15:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 00/17] qapi collision reduction (post-introspection subset B') Markus Armbruster
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