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From: Alan Burlison <Alan.Burlison@oracle.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>, Casper.Dik@oracle.com
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, dholland-tech@netbsd.org
Subject: Re: Fw: [Bug 106241] New: shutdown(3)/close(3) behaviour is incorrect for sockets in accept(3)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:55:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5628C0AE.2020508@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151022042100.GO22011@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

On 22/10/2015 05:21, Al Viro wrote:

>> Most of the work on using a file descriptor is local to the thread.
>
> Using - sure, but what of cacheline dirtied every time you resolve a
> descriptor to file reference?

Don't you have to do that anyway, to do anything useful with the file?

> How much does it cover and to what
> degree is that local to thread?  When it's a refcount inside struct file -
> no big deal, we'll be reading the same cacheline anyway and unless several
> threads are pounding on the same file with syscalls at the same time,
> that won't be a big deal.  But when refcounts are associated with
> descriptors...

There is a refcount in the struct held in the per-process list of open 
files and the 'slow path' processing is only taken if there's more than 
one LWP in the process that's accessing the file.

> In case of Linux we have two bitmaps and an array of pointers associated
> with descriptor table.  They grow on demand (in parallel)
> 	* reserving a descriptor is done under ->file_lock (dropped/regained
> around memory allocation if we end up expanding the sucker, actual reassignment
> of pointers to array/bitmaps is under that spinlock)
> 	* installing a pointer is lockless (we wait for ongoing resize to
> settle, RCU takes care of the rest)
> 	* grabbing a file by index is lockless as well
> 	* removing a pointer is under ->file_lock, so's replacing it by dup2().

Is that table per-process or global?

> The point is, dup2() over _unused_ descriptor is inherently racy, but dup2()
> over a descriptor we'd opened and kept open should be safe.  As it is,
> their implementation boils down to "userland must do process-wide exclusion
> between *any* dup2() and all syscalls that might create a new descriptor -
> open()/pipe()/socket()/accept()/recvmsg()/dup()/etc".  At the very least,
> it's a big QoI problem, especially since such userland exclusion would have
> to be taken around the operations that can block for a long time.  Sure,
> POSIX wording regarding dup2 is so weak that this behaviour can be argued
> to be compliant, but... replacement of the opened file associated with
> newfd really ought to be atomic to be of any use for multithreaded processes.

There's existing language in the Issue 7 dup2() description that says 
dup2() has to be atomic:

"the dup2( ) function provides unique services, as no other
interface is able to atomically replace an existing file descriptor."

And there is some new language in Issue 7 Technical Corrigenda 2 that 
reinforces that, when it's talking about reassignment of 
stdin/stdout/stderr:

"Furthermore, a close() followed by a reopen operation (e.g. open(), 
dup() etc) is not atomic; dup2() should be used to change standard file 
descriptors."

I don't think that it's possible to claim that a non-atomic dup2() is 
POSIX-compliant.

> IOW, if newfd is an opened descriptor prior to dup2() and no other thread
> attempts to close it by any means, there should be no window during which
> it would appear to be not opened.  Linux and FreeBSD satisfy that; OpenBSD
> seems to do the same, from the quick look.  NetBSD doesn't, no idea about
> Solaris.  FWIW, older NetBSD implementation (prior to "File descriptor changes,
> discussed on tech-kern:" back in 2008) used to behave like OpenBSD one; it
> had fixed a lot of crap, so it's entirely possible that OpenBSD simply has
> kept the old implementation, with tons of other races in that area, but this
> dup2() race got introduced in that rewrite.

Related to dup2(), there's some rather surprising behaviour on Linux. 
Here's the scenario:

----------
ThreadA opens, listens and accepts on socket fd1, waiting for incoming 
connections.

ThreadB waits for a while, then opens normal file fd2 for read/write.
ThreadB uses dup2 to make fd1 a clone of fd2.
ThreadB closes fd2.

ThreadA remains sat in accept on fd1 which is now a plain file, not a 
socket.

ThreadB writes to fd1, the result of which appears in the file, so fd1 
is indeed operating as a plain file.

ThreadB exits. ThreadA is still sat in accept on fd1.

A connection is made to fd1 by another process. The accept call succeeds 
and returns the incoming  connection. fd1 is still operating as a 
socket, even though it's now actually a plain file.
----------

I assume this is another consequence of the fact that threads waiting in 
accept don't get a notification if the fd they are using is closed, 
either directly by a call to close or by a syscall such as dup2. Not 
waking up other threads on a fd when it is closed seems like it's 
undesirable behaviour.

I can see the reasoning behind allowing shutdown to be used to do such a 
wakeup even if that's not POSIX-compliant - it may make it slightly 
easier for applications avoid fd recycling races. However the current 
situation is that shutdown is the *only* way to perform such a wakeup - 
simply closing the fd has no effect on any other threads. That seems 
incorrect.

-- 
Alan Burlison
--

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-22 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-19 16:59 Fw: [Bug 106241] New: shutdown(3)/close(3) behaviour is incorrect for sockets in accept(3) Stephen Hemminger
2015-10-19 23:33 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-20  1:12   ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-20  1:45     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-20  9:59       ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-20 11:24         ` David Miller
2015-10-20 11:39           ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-20 13:19         ` Fw: " Eric Dumazet
2015-10-20 13:45           ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-20 15:30             ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-20 18:31               ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-20 18:42                 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-21 10:25                 ` David Laight
2015-10-21 10:49                   ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-21 11:28                     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-21 13:03                       ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-21 13:29                         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-21  3:49       ` Al Viro
2015-10-21 14:38         ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-21 15:30           ` David Miller
2015-10-21 16:04             ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-21 21:18               ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-21 21:28                 ` Al Viro
2015-10-21 16:32           ` Fw: " Eric Dumazet
2015-10-21 18:51           ` Al Viro
2015-10-21 20:33             ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-22  4:21               ` Al Viro
2015-10-22 10:55                 ` Alan Burlison [this message]
2015-10-22 18:16                   ` Al Viro
2015-10-22 20:15                     ` Alan Burlison
2015-11-02 10:03               ` David Laight
2015-11-02 10:29                 ` Al Viro
2015-10-21 22:28             ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-22  1:29             ` David Miller
2015-10-22  4:17               ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-22  4:44                 ` Al Viro
2015-10-22  6:03                   ` Al Viro
2015-10-22  6:34                     ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-22 17:21                       ` Al Viro
2015-10-22 18:24                         ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-22 19:07                           ` Al Viro
2015-10-22 19:51                             ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-22 21:57                               ` Al Viro
2015-10-23  9:52                                 ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-23 13:02                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-23 13:20                                     ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-23 13:48                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-23 14:13                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-23 13:35                                     ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-23 14:21                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-23 15:46                                         ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-23 16:00                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-23 16:07                                             ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-23 16:19                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-23 16:40                                               ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-23 17:47                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-23 17:59                                                   ` [PATCH net-next] af_unix: do not report POLLOUT on listeners Eric Dumazet
2015-10-25 13:45                                                     ` David Miller
2015-10-24  2:30                                   ` [Bug 106241] New: shutdown(3)/close(3) behaviour is incorrect for sockets in accept(3) Al Viro
2015-10-27  9:08                                     ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-27 10:52                                       ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-27 12:01                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-27 12:27                                           ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-27 12:44                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-27 13:42                                         ` David Miller
2015-10-27 13:37                                           ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-27 13:59                                             ` David Miller
2015-10-27 14:13                                               ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-27 14:39                                                 ` David Miller
2015-10-27 14:39                                                   ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-27 15:04                                                     ` David Miller
2015-10-27 15:53                                                       ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-27 23:17                                         ` Al Viro
2015-10-28  0:13                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-28 12:35                                             ` Al Viro
2015-10-28 13:24                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-28 14:47                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-28 21:13                                                   ` Al Viro
2015-10-28 21:44                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-28 22:33                                                       ` Al Viro
2015-10-28 23:08                                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-29  0:15                                                           ` Al Viro
2015-10-29  3:29                                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-29  4:16                                                               ` Al Viro
2015-10-29 12:35                                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-29 13:48                                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-30 17:18                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-30 21:02                                                                     ` Al Viro
2015-10-30 21:23                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-30 21:50                                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-30 22:33                                                                           ` Al Viro
2015-10-30 23:52                                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-31  0:09                                                                               ` Al Viro
2015-10-31 15:59                                                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-31 19:34                                                                               ` Al Viro
2015-10-31 19:54                                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-31 20:29                                                                                   ` Al Viro
2015-11-02  0:24                                                                                     ` Al Viro
2015-11-02  0:59                                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-02  2:14                                                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-02  6:22                                                                                         ` Al Viro
2015-10-31 20:45                                                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-31 21:23                                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-31 21:51                                                                                       ` Al Viro
2015-10-31 22:34                                                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-31  1:07                                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-28 16:04                                           ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-29 14:58                                         ` David Holland
2015-10-29 15:18                                           ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-29 16:01                                             ` David Holland
2015-10-29 16:15                                               ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-29 17:07                                                 ` Al Viro
2015-10-29 17:12                                                   ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-30  1:54                                                     ` David Miller
2015-10-30  1:55                                                   ` David Miller
2015-10-30  5:44                                                 ` David Holland
2015-10-30 17:43                                           ` David Laight
2015-10-30 21:09                                             ` Al Viro
2015-11-04 15:54                                               ` David Laight
2015-11-04 16:27                                                 ` Al Viro
2015-11-06 15:07                                                   ` David Laight
2015-11-06 19:31                                                     ` Al Viro
2015-10-22  6:51                   ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-22 11:18                     ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-22 11:15                   ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-22  6:15                 ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-22 11:30                   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-22 11:58                     ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-22 12:10                       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-22 13:12                         ` David Miller
2015-10-22 13:14                         ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-22 17:05                           ` Al Viro
2015-10-22 17:39                             ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-22 18:56                               ` Al Viro
2015-10-22 19:50                                 ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-23 17:09                                   ` Al Viro
2015-10-23 18:30           ` Fw: " David Holland
2015-10-23 19:51             ` Al Viro

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