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From: Daniel De Graaf <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov>
To: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: wei.liu2@citrix.com, xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH XEN v5 07/23] tools: Refactor /dev/xen/gnt{dev, shr} wrappers into libxengnttab.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 15:38:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56464A30.10304@tycho.nsa.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1447426924.18450.171.camel@citrix.com>

On 13/11/15 10:02, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-11-11 at 15:03 +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> Ian Campbell writes ("[PATCH XEN v5 07/23] tools: Refactor
>> /dev/xen/gnt{dev,shr} wrappers into libxengnttab."):
>>> libxengnttab will provide a stable API and ABI for accessing the
>>> grant table devices.
>>>
>>> The functions are moved into the xengnt{tab,shr} namespace to make a
>>> clean break from libxc and avoid ambiguity regarding which interfaces
>>> are stable.
>>
>> I have reviewed the API.  Mostly this produced questions...
>
> Yes, thanks this is the sort of feedback I was looking for before we call
> this a stable interface.
>
> Some of my answers are of the "yes, we should decide that" variety.
>
> Daniel, I've added you because some of the questions below relate to the
> notification mechanism and to gntshr which I don't really understand (not
> that I really understand gnttab either).

Responses below.  I also agree that unifying the interfaces would be
better.

[...]
>>> +/**
>>> + * Memory maps a grant reference from one domain to a local address
>>> range.
>>> + * Mappings should be unmapped with xengnttab_munmap. If notify_offset
>>> or
>>> + * notify_port are not -1, this version will attempt to set up an
>>> unmap
>>> + * notification at the given offset and event channel. When the page
>>> is
>>> + * unmapped, the byte at the given offset will be zeroed and a wakeup
>>> will be
>>> + * sent to the given event channel.  Logs errors.
>>
>> What happens if the unmap notification cannot be set up ?
>>
>> Also "when the page is unmapped" makes it sound like you mean
>> xengnttab_munmap but actually I think this is when the grant is
>> withdrawn by the grantor ?
>>
>> If the grant is withdrawn by the grantor, does the page become
>> unuseable immediately ?  If so, how can anyone ever use this safely ?
>
> Daniel, could you answer these ones please.

This is intended to allow the kernel to send a close-request notification
when the application that allocated the grant page exits without calling
a proper shutdown (i.e. it crashes, calls _exit, calls execve, etc).

Without this signal, the kernel has no way to request that the mapper of
the page release it, and since Xen has no grant revocation mechanism, the
page will likely be tied up until the process on the other side is told to
release the page through some other method.

>>> +/*
>>> + * Creates and shares pages with another domain.
>>> + *
>> ...
>>> +void *xengntshr_share_pages(xengntshr_handle *xgs, uint32_t domid,
>>> +                            int count, uint32_t *refs, int writable);
>>
>> Can this fail ?  Can it partially succeed ?
>
> Daniel?

It can fail if you are out of pages to grant (there is a module parameter
that can be adjusted via sysfs for the maximum), or in the unlikely case
that the kernel itself is out of room in its grant mapping table (or if
the syscall itself encounters -ENOMEM).

>>> +/*
>>> + * Creates and shares a page with another domain, with unmap
>>> notification.
>>> + *
>>> + * @parm xgs a handle to an open grant sharing instance
>>> + * @parm domid the domain to share memory with
>>> + * @parm refs the grant reference of the pages (output)
>>> + * @parm writable true if the other domain can write to the page
>>> + * @parm notify_offset The byte offset in the page to use for unmap
>>> + *                     notification; -1 for none.
>>> + * @parm notify_port The event channel port to use for unmap notify,
>>> or -1
>>> + * @return local mapping of the page
>>> + */
>>> +void *xengntshr_share_page_notify(xengntshr_handle *xgs, uint32_t
>>> domid,
>>
>> What is this `unmap notification' ?
>
> Daniel?

As mentioned above, it is a way for the kernel to request for the other
side to unmap a page.  It is probably easiest to understand if looking
at the libvchan driver: one byte of the page is a "status" byte, and
when the side using xengntshr exits or dies, this byte is set to zero
and the event channel is notified.  When the peer is woken by the notify
and sees the state byte set to zero, it removes its own mappings so that
the shared pages can be freed.

>>
>>> +/*
>>> + * Unmaps the @count pages starting at @start_address, which were
>>> mapped by a
>>> + * call to xengntshr_share_*. Never logs.
>>
>> Linewrap in the comment.
>>
>>> + */
>>> +int xengntshr_munmap(xengntshr_handle *xgs, void *start_address,
>>> uint32_t count);
>>
>> What effect does this have on the peer ?
>
> Daniel?

If this removes the (final copy of the) mapping and a notify offset/port
is set, that processing happens.  Otherwise, the peer cannot tell when
this is called.

-- 
Daniel De Graaf
National Security Agency

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-13 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-09 11:59 [Qemu-devel] [Minios-devel] [PATCH v4 0/<VARIOUS>] Begin to disentangle libxenctrl and provide some stable libraries Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00 ` [PATCH XEN v5 00/23] " Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 01/23] tools/Rules.mk: Properly handle libraries with recursive dependencies Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 02/23] tools: Refactor "xentoollog" into its own library Ian Campbell
2015-11-13 15:05     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-11-13 15:35       ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 03/23] tools/libxc: Remove osdep indirection for xc_evtchn Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 04/23] tools: Refactor /dev/xen/evtchn wrappers into libxenevtchn Ian Campbell
2015-11-11 14:50     ` Ian Jackson
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 05/23] tools: Arrange to check public headers for ANSI compatiblity Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 06/23] tools/libxc: Remove osdep indirection for xc_gnt{shr, tab} Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 07/23] tools: Refactor /dev/xen/gnt{dev, shr} wrappers into libxengnttab Ian Campbell
2015-11-11 14:34     ` Wei Liu
2015-11-11 15:03     ` Ian Jackson
2015-11-13 15:02       ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-13 20:38         ` Daniel De Graaf [this message]
2015-11-16 12:30           ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-24 16:32             ` Daniel De Graaf
2015-11-23 17:05       ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-24  9:34         ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-25 15:06           ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 08/23] tools/libxc: Remove osdep indirection for privcmd Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 09/23] tools: Refactor hypercall calling wrappers into libxencall Ian Campbell
2015-11-11 15:08     ` Ian Jackson
2015-11-11 15:31       ` Wei Liu
2015-11-13 15:17         ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-13 15:16       ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-13 16:56         ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-13 16:57         ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-13 17:16           ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-11-13 17:23             ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-13 15:35     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-11-13 15:49     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-02 14:55       ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 10/23] tools/libxc: drop xc_map_foreign_bulk_compat wrappers Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 11/23] tools: Remove xc_map_foreign_batch Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 12/23] tools: Implement xc_map_foreign_range(s) in terms of common helper Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 13/23] tools: Refactor foreign memory mapping into libxenforeignmemory Ian Campbell
2015-11-11 15:13     ` Ian Jackson
2015-11-13 15:21       ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-13 15:27         ` Ian Jackson
2015-11-27 17:18           ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-27 17:48             ` Andrew Cooper
2015-11-29  9:54               ` Paul Durrant
     [not found]               ` <9AAE0902D5BC7E449B7C8E4E778ABCD02F69D32F@AMSPEX01CL01.citrite.net>
2015-11-30  9:51                 ` Ian Campbell
     [not found]                 ` <1448877118.15768.11.camel@citrix.com>
2015-12-01 10:16                   ` Paul Durrant
2015-11-27 15:46       ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 14/23] tools: foreignmemory: provide xenforeignmemory_unmap Ian Campbell
2015-11-11 15:14     ` Ian Jackson
2015-11-27 15:57       ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-13 16:16     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-11-13 16:17       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 15/23] foreignmemory: use size_t for size arguments Ian Campbell
2015-11-11 15:15     ` Ian Jackson
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 16/23] tools/libs/evtchn: Review and update doc comments Ian Campbell
2015-11-11 15:15     ` Ian Jackson
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 17/23] tools/libs: Clean up hard tabs Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 18/23] tools/libs/gnttab: Review and update doc comments Ian Campbell
2015-11-11 15:17     ` Ian Jackson
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 19/23] tools/libs/call: Update some log messages to not refer to xc Ian Campbell
2015-11-13 16:20     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-11-23 13:10       ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 20/23] tools/libs/call: Avoid xc_memalign in netbsd and solaris backends Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 21/23] tools/libs/foreignmemory: Mention restrictions on fork in docs Ian Campbell
2015-11-11 15:18     ` Ian Jackson
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 22/23] tools: Update CFLAGS for qemu-xen to allow it to use new libraries Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:00   ` [PATCH XEN v5 23/23] HACK: Update Config.mk to pull all the right bits from my xenbits trees Ian Campbell
2015-11-11 15:20   ` [PATCH XEN v5 00/23] Begin to disentangle libxenctrl and provide some stable libraries Ian Jackson
2015-11-09 12:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v5 0/9] " Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN v5 1/9] xen_console: correctly cleanup primary console on teardown Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v5 2/9] xen: Switch to libxenevtchn interface for compat shims Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01     ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v5 3/9] xen: Switch to libxengnttab " Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01     ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-10 14:02     ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-11-10 14:02     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v5 4/9] xen: Switch uses of xc_map_foreign_range into xc_map_foreign_bulk Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01     ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v5 5/9] xen: Switch uses of xc_map_foreign_pages " Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01     ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v5 6/9] xen: Switch uses of xc_map_foreign_bulk to use libxenforeignmemory API Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v5 7/9] xen: Use stable library interfaces when they are available Ian Campbell
2015-11-10 14:00     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-11-10 14:00     ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-11-09 12:01   ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v5 8/9] xen: domainbuild: reopen libxenctrl interface after forking for domain watcher Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01     ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v5 9/9] xen: make it possible to build without the Xen PV domain builder Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01     ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-10 12:48     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-11-10 12:48     ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-11-09 12:01 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v5 0/5] Begin to disentangle libxenctrl and provide some stable libraries Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v5 1/5] qemu-xen-traditional: Use xentoollog as a separate library Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v5 2/5] qemu-xen-traditional: Use libxenevtchn Ian Campbell
2015-11-11 15:19     ` Ian Jackson
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v5 3/5] qemu-xen-traditional: Use libxengnttab Ian Campbell
2015-11-11 15:20     ` Ian Jackson
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v5 4/5] qemu-xen-traditional: Add libxencall to rpath-link Ian Campbell
2015-11-11 15:20     ` Ian Jackson
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v5 5/5] qemu-xen-traditional: Add libxenforeignmemory " Ian Campbell
2015-11-11 15:21     ` Ian Jackson
2015-11-11 15:23   ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v5 0/5] Begin to disentangle libxenctrl and provide some stable libraries Ian Jackson
2015-11-09 12:01 ` [PATCH MINI-OS " Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [PATCH MINI-OS v5 1/5] mini-os: Include libxentoollog with libxc Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [PATCH MINI-OS v5 2/5] mini-os: Include libxenevtchn " Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [PATCH MINI-OS v5 3/5] mini-os: Include libxengnttab " Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [PATCH MINI-OS v5 4/5] mini-os: Include libxencall " Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:01   ` [PATCH MINI-OS v5 5/5] mini-os: Include libxenforeignmemory " Ian Campbell

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