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From: Goffredo Baroncelli <kreijack@inwind.it>
To: Anand Jain <anand.jain@oracle.com>, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/15] btrfs: Hot spare and Auto replace
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:05:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56471576.4080803@inwind.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5645B953.7080202@oracle.com>

On 2015-11-13 11:20, Anand Jain wrote:
> 
> Thanks for comments.
> 
> On 11/13/2015 03:21 AM, Goffredo Baroncelli wrote:
>> On 2015-11-09 11:56, Anand Jain wrote:
>>> These set of patches provides btrfs hot spare and auto replace support
>>> for you review and comments.
>>
>> Hi Anand,
>>
>> is there any reason to put this kind of logic in the kernel space ?
[...]
> 
>> Another feature of this daemon could be to add a disk when the disk
>> space is too low,
> 
>  That will be at the cost of a spare device which user should review
>  the trade-offs and do it manually ? I am not sure.

If you have more than one spare, you can do automatically both: a new disk is added when the space is low, and a disk is replaced in case of failure. If you have only one spare: you may decide to reserve it only for replacing a failed disk. But this should be a configurable option: a low space leads to a not available filesystem, a failed disk means a higher likelihood to loosing all the filesystem. I am not sure which should be the more critical.

>> or to start a balance when there is no space to
>> allocate further chunk.....
> 
>  Yep. As you notice, the thread created here is casualty_kthread()
>  (instead of replace_kthread()) over the long run I wish to provide
>  that feature in this thread, as it is a mutually exclusive operations
>  with replace.

A disk replacing should be an higher priority operation. In case of disk failure during a balance/defrag, these operation should be stopped to allow a replace.
If you want to start a replace, you should stop others (long time) operations like balance and defrag.

> 
>> Of course all these logic could be implemented in kernel space,
>> but I think that we should avoid that when possible.
> 
>  Easy to handle the mutually_exclusive parts with in the kernel
>  and Its better to have the important logic at one place. Two heads
>  operating on an org looking and feeling different things will lead
>  to wrong decisions.

Which is the other logic which you are referring ?

> 
>> Moreover in  user space the logging is more easy....
> 
> Thanks, Anand


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  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-14 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-09 10:56 [PATCH 00/15] btrfs: Hot spare and Auto replace Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 01/15] btrfs: Introduce a new function to check if all chunks a OK for degraded mount Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 02/15] btrfs: Do per-chunk check for mount time check Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 03/15] btrfs: Do per-chunk degraded check for remount Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 04/15] btrfs: Allow barrier_all_devices to do per-chunk device check Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 05/15] btrfs: optimize btrfs_check_degradable() for calls outside of barrier Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 06/15] btrfs: Cleanup num_tolerated_disk_barrier_failures Anand Jain
2015-12-05  7:16   ` Qu Wenruo
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 07/15] btrfs: introduce device dynamic state transition to offline or failed Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 08/15] btrfs: check device for critical errors and mark failed Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 09/15] btrfs: block incompatible optional features at scan Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 10/15] btrfs: introduce BTRFS_FEATURE_INCOMPAT_SPARE_DEV Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 11/15] btrfs: add check not to mount a spare device Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 12/15] btrfs: support btrfs dev scan for " Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 13/15] btrfs: provide framework to get and put a " Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 14/15] btrfs: introduce helper functions to perform hot replace Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 15/15] btrfs: check for failed device and " Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:58 ` [PATCH 0/4] btrfs-progs: Hot spare and Auto replace Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:58   ` [PATCH 1/4] btrfs-progs: Introduce BTRFS_FEATURE_INCOMPAT_SPARE_DEV SB flags Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:58   ` [PATCH 2/4] btrfs-progs: Introduce btrfs spare subcommand Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:58   ` [PATCH 3/4] btrfs-progs: add fi show for spare Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:58   ` [PATCH 4/4] btrfs-progs: add global spare device list to filesystem show Anand Jain
2015-11-09 14:09 ` [PATCH 00/15] btrfs: Hot spare and Auto replace Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-11-09 21:29   ` Duncan
2015-11-10 12:13     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-11-13 10:17       ` Anand Jain
2015-11-13 12:25         ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-11-15 18:10         ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-11-12  2:15 ` Qu Wenruo
2015-11-12  6:46   ` Duncan
2015-11-12 13:04   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-11-13  1:07     ` Qu Wenruo
2015-11-13 10:20       ` Anand Jain
2015-11-14  0:54         ` Qu Wenruo
2015-11-16 13:39           ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-11-12 19:08   ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2015-11-13 10:18   ` Anand Jain
2015-11-12 19:21 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2015-11-13 10:20   ` Anand Jain
2015-11-14 11:05     ` Goffredo Baroncelli [this message]
2015-11-16 13:41 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-11-16 22:07   ` Anand Jain
2015-11-17 12:28     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn

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