From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io0-f182.google.com ([209.85.223.182]:35398 "EHLO mail-io0-f182.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750874AbbKSM3Y (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Nov 2015 07:29:24 -0500 Received: by ioc74 with SMTP id 74so86743593ioc.2 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 04:29:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Kernel 3.19 and still "disk full" even though 'btrfs fi df" reports enough room left? To: linux-btrfs.tebulin@xoxy.net, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org References: <564CC90F.3060703@gmail.com> From: Austin S Hemmelgarn Message-ID: <564DC072.4060508@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 07:28:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <564CC90F.3060703@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-512; boundary="------------ms090906050601040603080606" Sender: linux-btrfs-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090906050601040603080606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015-11-18 13:53, linux-btrfs.tebulin@xoxy.net wrote: > > P.S.: Just as user feedback: For /srv I'm using on the very same system= > ZFS since the very first day. With snapshots & all the fancy stuff like= > ZRAID-1, lz4, ... My number of Issues there: 0 Since other people have adequately answered the main questions, I'll=20 just comment on this. In general, ZFS is not a good comparison to BTRFS for anything but=20 features. Just the open source version of ZFS has been around for more=20 than a decade, and it existed as proprietary code for quite a while=20 before that. As such, it's had a lot longer to stabilize, has had=20 exponentially more testing, and in general is a lot more reliable. As=20 such, aside from feature comparisons, ZFS is going to win in almost all=20 tests of performance, reliability, and usability for the foreseeable=20 future. This doesn't mean you shouldn't use BTRFS (ZFS got to where it=20 is now exactly because _a lot_ of people use it), it just means you need = to do a lot of homework, and ideally keep you system actually up to date = (having all updates installed on Ubuntu doesn't really count in this=20 case, they're pretty bad sometimes about not properly tracking upstream=20 development (although they are significantly better than regular Debian))= =2E --------------ms090906050601040603080606 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgMFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC Brgwgga0MIIEnKADAgECAgMRLfgwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQENBQAweTEQMA4GA1UEChMHUm9vdCBD QTEeMBwGA1UECxMVaHR0cDovL3d3dy5jYWNlcnQub3JnMSIwIAYDVQQDExlDQSBDZXJ0IFNp Z25pbmcgQXV0aG9yaXR5MSEwHwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhJzdXBwb3J0QGNhY2VydC5vcmcwHhcN MTUwOTIxMTEzNTEzWhcNMTYwMzE5MTEzNTEzWjBjMRgwFgYDVQQDEw9DQWNlcnQgV29UIFVz ZXIxIzAhBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWFGFoZmVycm9pbjdAZ21haWwuY29tMSIwIAYJKoZIhvcNAQkB FhNhaGVtbWVsZ0BvaGlvZ3QuY29tMIICIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAg8AMIICCgKCAgEA nQ/81tq0QBQi5w316VsVNfjg6kVVIMx760TuwA1MUaNQgQ3NyUl+UyFtjhpkNwwChjgAqfGd LIMTHAdObcwGfzO5uI2o1a8MHVQna8FRsU3QGouysIOGQlX8jFYXMKPEdnlt0GoQcd+BtESr pivbGWUEkPs1CwM6WOrs+09bAJP3qzKIr0VxervFrzrC5Dg9Rf18r9WXHElBuWHg4GYHNJ2V Ab8iKc10h44FnqxZK8RDN8ts/xX93i9bIBmHnFfyNRfiOUtNVeynJbf6kVtdHP+CRBkXCNRZ qyQT7gbTGD24P92PS2UTmDfplSBcWcTn65o3xWfesbf02jF6PL3BCrVnDRI4RgYxG3zFBJuG qvMoEODLhHKSXPAyQhwZINigZNdw5G1NqjXqUw+lIqdQvoPijK9J3eijiakh9u2bjWOMaleI SMRR6XsdM2O5qun1dqOrCgRkM0XSNtBQ2JjY7CycIx+qifJWsRaYWZz0aQU4ZrtAI7gVhO9h pyNaAGjvm7PdjEBiXq57e4QcgpwzvNlv8pG1c/hnt0msfDWNJtl3b6elhQ2Pz4w/QnWifZ8E BrFEmjeeJa2dqjE3giPVWrsH+lOvQQONsYJOuVb8b0zao4vrWeGmW2q2e3pdv0Axzm/60cJQ haZUv8+JdX9ZzqxOm5w5eUQSclt84u+D+hsCAwEAAaOCAVkwggFVMAwGA1UdEwEB/wQCMAAw VgYJYIZIAYb4QgENBEkWR1RvIGdldCB5b3VyIG93biBjZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBmb3IgRlJFRSBo ZWFkIG92ZXIgdG8gaHR0cDovL3d3dy5DQWNlcnQub3JnMA4GA1UdDwEB/wQEAwIDqDBABgNV HSUEOTA3BggrBgEFBQcDBAYIKwYBBQUHAwIGCisGAQQBgjcKAwQGCisGAQQBgjcKAwMGCWCG SAGG+EIEATAyBggrBgEFBQcBAQQmMCQwIgYIKwYBBQUHMAGGFmh0dHA6Ly9vY3NwLmNhY2Vy dC5vcmcwMQYDVR0fBCowKDAmoCSgIoYgaHR0cDovL2NybC5jYWNlcnQub3JnL3Jldm9rZS5j cmwwNAYDVR0RBC0wK4EUYWhmZXJyb2luN0BnbWFpbC5jb22BE2FoZW1tZWxnQG9oaW9ndC5j b20wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQENBQADggIBADMnxtSLiIunh/TQcjnRdf63yf2D8jMtYUm4yDoCF++J jCXbPQBGrpCEHztlNSGIkF3PH7ohKZvlqF4XePWxpY9dkr/pNyCF1PRkwxUURqvuHXbu8Lwn 8D3U2HeOEU3KmrfEo65DcbanJCMTTW7+mU9lZICPP7ZA9/zB+L0Gm1UNFZ6AU50N/86vjQfY WgkCd6dZD4rQ5y8L+d/lRbJW7ZGEQw1bSFVTRpkxxDTOwXH4/GpQfnfqTAtQuJ1CsKT12e+H NSD/RUWGTr289dA3P4nunBlz7qfvKamxPymHeBEUcuICKkL9/OZrnuYnGROFwcdvfjGE5iLB kjp/ttrY4aaVW5EsLASNgiRmA6mbgEAMlw3RwVx0sVelbiIAJg9Twzk4Ct6U9uBKiJ8S0sS2 8RCSyTmCRhJs0vvva5W9QUFGmp5kyFQEoSfBRJlbZfGX2ehI2Hi3U2/PMUm2ONuQG1E+a0AP u7I0NJc/Xil7rqR0gdbfkbWp0a+8dAvaM6J00aIcNo+HkcQkUgtfrw+C2Oyl3q8IjivGXZqT 5UdGUb2KujLjqjG91Dun3/RJ/qgQlotH7WkVBs7YJVTCxfkdN36rToPcnMYOI30FWa0Q06gn F6gUv9/mo6riv3A5bem/BdbgaJoPnWQD9D8wSyci9G4LKC+HQAMdLmGoeZfpJzKHMYIE0TCC BM0CAQEwgYAweTEQMA4GA1UEChMHUm9vdCBDQTEeMBwGA1UECxMVaHR0cDovL3d3dy5jYWNl cnQub3JnMSIwIAYDVQQDExlDQSBDZXJ0IFNpZ25pbmcgQXV0aG9yaXR5MSEwHwYJKoZIhvcN AQkBFhJzdXBwb3J0QGNhY2VydC5vcmcCAxEt+DANBglghkgBZQMEAgMFAKCCAiEwGAYJKoZI hvcNAQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG9w0BCQUxDxcNMTUxMTE5MTIyODM0WjBPBgkq hkiG9w0BCQQxQgRAJcW1oUGXP+SGSi9ucGFzB+amK7ky7qeGIGPYEyyKL65puY57jIq2DG97 Evch5To9RpPTf+aCznZE6f+xLTgsvTBsBgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xXzBdMAsGCWCGSAFlAwQBKjAL BglghkgBZQMEAQIwCgYIKoZIhvcNAwcwDgYIKoZIhvcNAwICAgCAMA0GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgFA MAcGBSsOAwIHMA0GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgEoMIGRBgkrBgEEAYI3EAQxgYMwgYAweTEQMA4GA1UE ChMHUm9vdCBDQTEeMBwGA1UECxMVaHR0cDovL3d3dy5jYWNlcnQub3JnMSIwIAYDVQQDExlD QSBDZXJ0IFNpZ25pbmcgQXV0aG9yaXR5MSEwHwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhJzdXBwb3J0QGNhY2Vy dC5vcmcCAxEt+DCBkwYLKoZIhvcNAQkQAgsxgYOggYAweTEQMA4GA1UEChMHUm9vdCBDQTEe MBwGA1UECxMVaHR0cDovL3d3dy5jYWNlcnQub3JnMSIwIAYDVQQDExlDQSBDZXJ0IFNpZ25p bmcgQXV0aG9yaXR5MSEwHwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhJzdXBwb3J0QGNhY2VydC5vcmcCAxEt+DAN BgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASCAgBD93u/fLm41ZeiyKMiEIkN9ee8DFwd/rf855C0xrPUelyt0UO0 957/3bsgLCl3qdMtcrIbLYRyPDbRlih2FtYiqo60h4odHQ7GF24f6R0ScqMth3uudDOH5lla Ibg/ZtvddUEC2kUlRRA5IjVPZrSV6UGkNlpzkXSTK5LT9AiSKD7Jt2S/7rNefRn0RBd0Q8zY EIPTiEmdRDse/VeVZtLToza4SK5afvobeT7//3oygfxCa3a8EqvZexObDSgkuwV27e8S2j+m 2yzvI71rqgFnCpExs1li0WTlo6RDti0RAMuGC0KV+4yEqgjIL4znvTs54GknkhAEzKKT9a5y EWsXseFLXmuWh3nfNuOL6u2Zs9KOsXOJa3bPtSAVJ16dV3cGYCy/Un/rLmckpVRYYzCNMufr ycAKPyr2CWYPoxW3zVGT3i+2sIaoBd1zKiZ4l4mj7O0EX8n2oYAiQO/KqBmSafbpdAu3KYTp KFebpoTBXJUa0hsubZ03Rz1GSqN4Lp78s4TzoAZDlTuP+5vViaqiU09GqqRq2cFQCA06OKDd tIhnU49CJAyQAMPFqzBkk8m7OC9TFd7faETGsO859Lr7Az3Vy7865grUKwDhyGkhwuGJXGbp Q1W7YGVFhygxMldXxvdSbckEqdKHhogUB1rHCJV61u2fPbnL487xuDDnCgAAAAAAAA== --------------ms090906050601040603080606--