From: Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@sandisk.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
Jamed Bottomley <jbottomley@odin.com>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.com>,
Ewan Milne <emilne@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] ALUA device handler update, part 1
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 14:58:18 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <564FA58A.8040006@sandisk.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <564EFB65.6050603@suse.de>
On 11/20/2015 02:52 AM, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> One thing, though: I don't really agree with Barts objection that
> moving to a workqueue would tie in too many resources.
> Thing is, I'm not convinces that using a work queue is allocating
> too many resources (we're speaking of 460 vs 240 bytes here).
> Also we have to retry commands for quite some time (cite the
> infamous NetApp takeover/giveback, which can take minutes).
> If we were to handle that without workqueue we'd have to initiate
> the retry from the end_io callback, causing a quite deep stack
> recursion. Which I'm not really fond of.
Hello Hannes,
Sorry if I wasn't clear enough in my previous e-mail about this topic
but I'm more concerned about the additional memory needed for thread
stacks and thread control data structures than about the additional
memory needed for the workqueue. I'd like to see the ALUA device handler
implementation scale to thousands of LUNs and target port groups. In
case all connections between an initiator and a target port group fail,
with a synchronous implementation of STPG we will either need a large
number of threads (in case of one thread per STPG command) or the STPG
commands will be serialized (if there are fewer threads than portal
groups). Neither alternative looks attractive to me.
BTW, not all storage arrays need STPG retries. Some arrays are able to
process an STPG command quickly (this means within a few seconds).
A previous discussion about this topic is available e.g. at
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.scsi/105340/focus=105601.
Bart.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-20 22:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-09 15:08 [PATCH 00/18] ALUA device handler update, part 1 Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 01/18] scsi_dh: move 'dh_state' sysfs attribute to generic code Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:14 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-30 16:59 ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 02/18] scsi: ignore errors from scsi_dh_add_device() Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:14 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 03/18] scsi_dh_alua: Disable ALUA handling for non-disk devices Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:14 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 04/18] scsi_dh_alua: Use vpd_pg83 information Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:15 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 05/18] scsi_dh_alua: improved logging Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:15 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 06/18] scsi_dh_alua: sanitze sense code handling Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:16 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 07/18] scsi_dh_alua: use standard logging functions Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:16 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 08/18] scsi_dh_alua: return standard SCSI return codes in submit_rtpg Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:16 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 09/18] scsi_dh_alua: fixup description of stpg_endio() Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:16 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 10/18] scsi: remove scsi_show_sense_hdr() Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:16 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 11/18] scsi_dh_alua: use flag for RTPG extended header Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:16 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 12/18] scsi_dh_alua: use unaligned access macros Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:17 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 13/18] scsi_dh_alua: rework alua_check_tpgs() to return the tpgs mode Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:17 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 14/18] scsi_dh_alua: simplify sense code handling Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:17 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 15/18] scsi: Add scsi_vpd_lun_id() Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:17 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 16/18] scsi: export 'device_id' to sysfs Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:17 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 17/18] scsi: Add scsi_vpd_tpg_id() Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:17 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 18/18] scsi_dh_alua: use scsi_vpd_tpg_id() Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-24 12:18 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-11-19 8:35 ` [PATCH 00/18] ALUA device handler update, part 1 Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-19 9:42 ` Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-20 10:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-20 10:52 ` Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-20 10:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-20 11:02 ` Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-20 22:58 ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2015-11-23 16:10 ` Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-23 16:18 ` Bart Van Assche
2015-11-24 15:29 ` Hannes Reinecke
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