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From: Saravana Kannan <skannan@codeaurora.org>
To: "Robert Schöne" <robert.schoene@tu-dresden.de>
Cc: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de>,
	Rafael Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	ke.wang@spreadtrum.com, linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	paulus@samba.org, shilpa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	prarit@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 06/10] cpufreq: governor: Keep single copy of information common to policy->cpus
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2015 14:00:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5660BB93.8050809@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1449125623.17314.13.camel@tu-dresden.de>

On 12/02/2015 10:53 PM, Robert Schöne wrote:
>
>> There is another idea that I have.
>>
>> Lets sacrifice idleness of CPU0 (which is already considered as
>> housekeeping CPU in scheduler) to save us from all the complexity we
>> have today.
>>
>> Suppose we have 16 CPUs, with 4 CPUs per policy and hence 4 policies.
>> - Keep a single delayed-work (non-deferrable) per policy and queue
>> them as:

This is a 100% no go. Non-deferrable is going to kill mobile idle power.

>>    queue_work_on(CPU0).
>> - This will work because any CPU can calculate the load of other
>> CPUs,
>>    and there is no dependency on the local CPU.
>> - CPU0 will hence get interrupted, check if the policy->cpus are idle
>>    or not, and if not, update their frequency (perhaps with an IPI).
>>
>> Not sure if this will be better performance wise though.
>>
>
> No it is not. In your example, everything could be okay with many ifs.
> I'm from the HPC field and would expect load imbalances because this
> approach does not scale with the number of frequency domains.

Agree. I think that's why we had per policy timers (forced to be 
implemented with per CPU deferrable timers) in the first place.

-Saravana

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-03 22:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-19 11:48 [PATCH V2 00/10] cpufreq: governor: Avoid invalid state-transitions Viresh Kumar
2015-06-19 11:48 ` [PATCH V2 01/10] cpufreq: governor: Name delayed-work as dwork Viresh Kumar
2015-06-19 11:48 ` [PATCH V2 02/10] cpufreq: governor: Drop unused field 'cpu' Viresh Kumar
2015-06-19 11:48 ` [PATCH V2 03/10] cpufreq: governor: Rename 'cpu_dbs_common_info' to 'cpu_dbs_info' Viresh Kumar
2015-06-19 11:48 ` [PATCH V2 04/10] cpufreq: governor: name pointer to cpu_dbs_info as 'cdbs' Viresh Kumar
2015-06-19 11:48 ` [PATCH V2 05/10] cpufreq: governor: rename cur_policy as policy Viresh Kumar
2015-06-19 11:48 ` [PATCH V2 06/10] cpufreq: governor: Keep single copy of information common to policy->cpus Viresh Kumar
2015-07-17 22:11   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-11-27 11:56   ` Lucas Stach
2015-11-30  5:19     ` Viresh Kumar
2015-11-30 10:34       ` Lucas Stach
2015-11-30 11:03         ` Viresh Kumar
2015-12-02 21:43           ` Saravana Kannan
2015-12-03  4:54             ` Viresh Kumar
2015-12-03  6:53               ` Robert Schöne
2015-12-03 22:00                 ` Saravana Kannan [this message]
2015-06-19 11:48 ` [PATCH V2 07/10] cpufreq: governor: split out common part of {cs|od}_dbs_timer() Viresh Kumar
2015-06-19 11:48 ` [PATCH V2 08/10] cpufreq: governor: Avoid invalid states with additional checks Viresh Kumar
2015-06-19 18:04   ` Preeti U Murthy
2015-06-19 11:48 ` [PATCH V2 09/10] cpufreq: governor: Don't WARN on invalid states Viresh Kumar
2015-06-19 11:48 ` [PATCH V2 10/10] cpufreq: propagate errors returned from __cpufreq_governor() Viresh Kumar
2015-06-19 18:02   ` Preeti U Murthy
2015-06-20  3:12     ` Viresh Kumar
2015-06-22  4:41       ` Preeti U Murthy
2015-06-22  5:21         ` Viresh Kumar
2015-06-19 18:09   ` Preeti U Murthy
2015-06-19 18:08 ` [PATCH V2 00/10] cpufreq: governor: Avoid invalid state-transitions Preeti U Murthy
2015-06-19 23:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-06-20  2:36   ` Viresh Kumar
2015-07-17 22:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-18  6:00   ` [PATCH V3 0/5] " Viresh Kumar
2015-07-18  6:00     ` [PATCH V3 1/5] cpufreq: governor: Keep single copy of information common to policy->cpus Viresh Kumar
2015-07-18  6:00       ` Viresh Kumar
2015-07-18  6:01     ` [PATCH V3 2/5] cpufreq: governor: split out common part of {cs|od}_dbs_timer() Viresh Kumar
2015-07-18  6:01       ` Viresh Kumar
2015-07-18  6:01     ` [PATCH V3 3/5] cpufreq: governor: Avoid invalid states with additional checks Viresh Kumar
2015-07-18  6:01       ` Viresh Kumar
2015-07-18  6:01     ` [PATCH V3 4/5] cpufreq: governor: Don't WARN on invalid states Viresh Kumar
2015-07-18  6:01       ` Viresh Kumar
2015-07-18  6:01     ` [PATCH V3 5/5] cpufreq: propagate errors returned from __cpufreq_governor() Viresh Kumar
2015-07-18  6:01       ` Viresh Kumar
2015-07-23 21:00     ` [PATCH V3 0/5] cpufreq: governor: Avoid invalid state-transitions Rafael J. Wysocki

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