From: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hpe.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] locking: Introduce smp_cond_acquire()
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 17:48:14 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5662182E.4050909@hpe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzZA9EB3hFptSpdmeMOifeM5BWQGOW+ib7SLvyMTETzaA@mail.gmail.com>
On 12/04/2015 05:05 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Waiman Long<waiman.long@hpe.com> wrote:
>> Will the following work?
> Are we trying to win some obfuscated C contest here?
>
> Just make it do something like (skipping backslashes to make it easier
> to type and read)
>
> #define smp_cond_load_acquire(ptr, cond_expr) ({
> typeof(*ptr) VAL;
> for (;;) {
> VAL = READ_ONCE(*ptr);
> if (cond_expr) break;
> cpu_relax();
> }
> smp_rmb();
> VAL;
> })
>
> and then you'd have it be
>
> val = smp_cond_load_acquire(&lock->val.counter,
> !(VAL& _Q_LOCKED_PENDING_MASK));
>
> which is at least halfway legible. Not some odd "fragments of
> expressions" interfaces unless absolutely required, please.
It is just some random thought that I have. I am not saying that it is
the right way to go.
> Of course, I suspect we should not use READ_ONCE(), but some
> architecture-overridable version that just defaults to READ_ONCE().
> Same goes for that "smp_rmb()". Because maybe some architectures will
> just prefer an explicit acquire, and I suspect we do *not* want
> architectures having to recreate and override that crazy loop.
>
> How much does this all actually end up mattering, btw?
>
> Linus
I think what Will want to do is to provide an architecture specific
replacement for the whole macro, not just part of it. So using READ_ONCE
should be fine.
Cheers,
Longman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-04 22:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-03 12:40 [PATCH 0/4] scheduler ordering bits -v2 Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-03 12:40 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched: Better document the try_to_wake_up() barriers Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-03 12:40 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched: Fix a race in try_to_wake_up() vs schedule() Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-03 12:40 ` [PATCH 3/4] locking: Introduce smp_cond_acquire() Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-03 16:37 ` Will Deacon
2015-12-03 20:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-03 21:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-04 14:57 ` Will Deacon
2015-12-04 20:51 ` Waiman Long
2015-12-04 22:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-12-04 22:48 ` Waiman Long [this message]
2015-12-04 23:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-07 15:18 ` Will Deacon
2015-12-03 19:41 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-12-03 20:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-03 12:40 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched: Document Program-Order guarantees Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-03 13:16 ` Boqun Feng
2015-12-03 13:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
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