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From: Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, Victor Kaplansky <vkaplans@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] vhost: handle VHOST_USER_SET_LOG_BASE request
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 18:48:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5665B84B.4000900@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32221385.fypBVK5OXa@xps13>

On 12/07/2015 03:55 PM, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> 2015-12-07 13:41, Panu Matilainen:
>> On 12/07/2015 01:28 PM, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
>>> 2015-12-07 08:29, Panu Matilainen:
>>>> On 12/07/2015 01:07 AM, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
>>>>> 2015-12-02 15:53, Panu Matilainen:
>>>> The vhost ABI break was announced for DPDK 2.2 in commit
>>>> 3c848bd7b1c6f4f681b833322a748fdefbb5fb2d:
>>> [...]
>>>> So the ABI process was properly followed, except for actually bumping
>>>> LIBABIVER. Bumping LIBABIVER is mentioned in
>>>> doc/guides/contributing/versioning.rst but it doesn't specify *when*
>>>> this should be done, eg should the first patch breaking the ABI bump it
>>>> or should it done be shortly before the next stable release, or
>>>> something else. As it is, it seems a bit too easy to simply forget.
>>>
>>> I thought it was not needed to explicitly say that commits must be atomic
>>> and we do not have to wait to do the required changes.

Heh, now that I look more carefully... it IS documented, line 38 of 
contributing/versioning.rst:

 > ABI versions are set at the time of major release labeling, and the
 > ABI may change multiple times, without warning, between the last
 > release label and the HEAD label of the git tree.

>> The "problem" is that during a development cycle, an ABI could be broken
>> several times but LIBABIVER should only be bumped once. So ABI breaking
>> commits will often not be atomic wrt LIBABIVER, no matter which way its
>> done.
>
> If the ABI version has already been changed, there should be a merge conflict.
> I think it's better to manage a conflict than forget to update the version.

What I'm thinking of is something that would tie LIBABIVER to the 
deprecation announcement in a way that could be easily checked 
(programmatically and manually). As it is now, its quite non-trivial to 
figure what LIBABIVER *should* be for a given library at a given point - 
you need to dig up deprecation.rst history and Makefile history and 
whatnot, and its all quite error-prone.

>> For example libtool recommendation is that library versions are updated
>> only just before public releases:
>> https://www.gnu.org/software/libtool/manual/html_node/Updating-version-info.html#Updating-version-info
>
> Interesting link. It makes me think that we do not manage ABI break when
> downgrading the library (case of only new API keeping the ABI number).

Hmm, not quite sure what you mean here, but full libtool-style 
versioning is not really needed with symbol versioning.

	- Panu -

>
>>> In this case, I've missed it when reviewing the vhost patches breaking the
>>> ABI.
>

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-07 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-02  3:43 [PATCH 0/4 for 2.3] vhost-user live migration support Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-02  3:43 ` [PATCH 1/4] vhost: handle VHOST_USER_SET_LOG_BASE request Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-02 13:53   ` Panu Matilainen
2015-12-02 14:31     ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-02 14:48       ` Panu Matilainen
2015-12-02 15:09         ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-02 16:58           ` Panu Matilainen
2015-12-02 17:24             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-02 16:38       ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-12-03  1:49         ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-06 23:07     ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-12-07  2:00       ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-07  2:03         ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-12-07  2:18           ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-07  2:49             ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-12-07  6:29       ` Panu Matilainen
2015-12-07 11:28         ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-12-07 11:41           ` Panu Matilainen
2015-12-07 13:55             ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-12-07 16:48               ` Panu Matilainen [this message]
2015-12-07 17:47                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-12-08  5:57   ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-08  7:25     ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-02  3:43 ` [PATCH 2/4] vhost: introduce vhost_log_write Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-02 13:53   ` Victor Kaplansky
2015-12-02 14:39     ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-09  3:33     ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-09  3:42       ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-09  5:44         ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-09  8:41           ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-02  3:43 ` [PATCH 3/4] vhost: log vring changes Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-02 14:07   ` Victor Kaplansky
2015-12-02 14:38     ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-02 15:58       ` Victor Kaplansky
2015-12-02 16:26         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-03  2:31           ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-09  2:45     ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-02  3:43 ` [PATCH 4/4] vhost: enable log_shmfd protocol feature Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-02 14:10 ` [PATCH 0/4 for 2.3] vhost-user live migration support Victor Kaplansky
2015-12-02 14:33   ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-09  3:41 ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-17  3:11 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] " Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-17  3:11   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] vhost: handle VHOST_USER_SET_LOG_BASE request Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-21 15:32     ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-22  2:25       ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-22  2:41         ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-22  2:55           ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-17  3:11   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] vhost: introduce vhost_log_write Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-21 15:06     ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-22  2:40       ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-22  2:45         ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-22  3:04           ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-22  7:02             ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-22  5:11     ` Peter Xu
2015-12-22  6:09       ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-17  3:11   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] vhost: log used vring changes Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-22  6:55     ` Peter Xu
2015-12-22  7:07       ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-22  7:59         ` Peter Xu
2015-12-22  7:13       ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-22  8:01         ` Peter Xu
2015-12-17  3:11   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] vhost: log vring desc buffer changes Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-17  3:12   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] vhost: claim that we support GUEST_ANNOUNCE feature Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-22  8:11     ` Peter Xu
2015-12-22  8:21       ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-22  8:24       ` Pavel Fedin
2015-12-17  3:12   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] vhost: enable log_shmfd protocol feature Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-17 12:08   ` [PATCH v2 0/6] vhost-user live migration support Iremonger, Bernard
2015-12-17 12:45     ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-21  8:17   ` Pavel Fedin
2016-01-29  4:57   ` [PATCH v3 0/8] " Yuanhan Liu
2016-01-29  4:57     ` [PATCH v3 1/8] vhost: handle VHOST_USER_SET_LOG_BASE request Yuanhan Liu
2016-01-29  4:57     ` [PATCH v3 2/8] vhost: introduce vhost_log_write Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-19 14:26       ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-02-22  6:59         ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-01-29  4:57     ` [PATCH v3 3/8] vhost: log used vring changes Yuanhan Liu
2016-01-29  4:57     ` [PATCH v3 4/8] vhost: log vring desc buffer changes Yuanhan Liu
2016-01-29  4:58     ` [PATCH v3 5/8] vhost: claim that we support GUEST_ANNOUNCE feature Yuanhan Liu
2016-03-11 12:39       ` Olivier MATZ
2016-03-11 13:16         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-11 13:22           ` Olivier MATZ
2016-01-29  4:58     ` [PATCH v3 6/8] vhost: handle VHOST_USER_SEND_RARP request Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-19  6:11       ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-02-19  7:03         ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-19  8:55           ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-22 14:36           ` [PATCH] vhost: broadcast RARP pkt by injecting it to receiving mbuf array Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-24  8:15             ` Qiu, Michael
2016-02-24  8:28               ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-25  7:55                 ` Qiu, Michael
2016-02-29 15:56             ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-01-29  4:58     ` [PATCH v3 7/8] vhost: enable log_shmfd protocol feature Yuanhan Liu
2016-01-29  4:58     ` [PATCH v3 8/8] vhost: remove duplicate header include Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-01 15:54     ` [PATCH v3 0/8] vhost-user live migration support Iremonger, Bernard
2016-02-02  1:53       ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-19 15:01     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-02-22  7:08       ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-22  9:56         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-02-22 14:24           ` Yuanhan Liu

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