From: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
To: Joe Nall <joe@nall.com>, Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: "Roberts, William C" <william.c.roberts@intel.com>,
Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
"selinux@tycho.nsa.gov" <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>,
"arve@google.com" <arve@google.com>,
"linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org"
<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Exposing secid to secctx mapping to user-space
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:03:06 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <567055DA.2070300@tycho.nsa.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E542E1EE-77B3-4133-B9AC-486256AB7D53@nall.com>
On 12/15/2015 12:19 PM, Joe Nall wrote:
>
>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com> wrote:
>>
>> ...
>> I have long wondered why SELinux generates the context string
>> of the secid more than once. Audit performance alone would
>> justify keeping it around. The variable length issue isn't
>> so difficult as you make it out. As William pointed out earlier,
>> most SELinux contexts are short. Two protocols, one with a
>> fixed length of 16 chars (typical is 7) and one with a fixed
>> length of 256 (for abnormal contexts) solve the problem without
>> complicating the code hardly at all.
>
> We have 'abnormal' contexts over 1024 bytes in production MLS systems. It is possible, though unlikely, to see raw contexts over 5k bytes with 1024 category bits. Thinking like this broke the original RHEL 5 racoon and more recently RHEL 6 openswan for us.
>
> joe
>
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Are you patching the kernel to support > 4K contexts?
Otherwise, I'd expect you run up against the proc and selinuxfs API
limitations (page size) and/or the filesystem xattr storage limitations
(block size).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-15 18:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-11 18:37 Exposing secid to secctx mapping to user-space Daniel Cashman
2015-12-11 19:55 ` Paul Moore
2015-12-11 20:41 ` Roberts, William C
2015-12-11 22:14 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-12-12 0:24 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-12-13 22:06 ` Paul Moore
2015-12-14 17:03 ` Mike Palmiotto
2015-12-14 17:31 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-12-14 17:42 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-12-14 17:50 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-12-14 21:29 ` Roberts, William C
2015-12-14 22:11 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-12-14 22:52 ` William Roberts
2015-12-14 22:57 ` Roberts, William C
2015-12-15 15:00 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-12-15 16:06 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-12-15 16:55 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-12-15 17:36 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-12-15 17:19 ` Joe Nall
2015-12-15 18:03 ` Stephen Smalley [this message]
2015-12-15 19:09 ` Joe Nall
2015-12-18 23:55 ` Paul Moore
2015-12-15 20:58 ` Daniel Cashman
2015-12-15 22:41 ` William Roberts
2015-12-18 23:54 ` Paul Moore
2015-12-11 20:36 ` Casey Schaufler
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