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From: J <jhnlmn@yahoo.com>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Possible race condition in usb-serial.c
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:51:56 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <567505.6711.qm@web32913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200612222059.50652.oliver@neukum.org>

> No, this is a fundamental problem. You don't
> refcount
> a pointer, you refcount a data structure.
> But this is insufficient. We need to make 
> sure the pointer points to valid memory.

I understand. But a typical definition of ref-count 
requires the count in the data structure to be
equal to the number of outstanding pointers to this
data structure.
Every time we create a new pointer, the ref count
should be incremented. When pointer is erased, count
is decremented. 
This is what I meant as "ref counting a pointer".
If we follow this rule, then each pointer will
always point to a valid memory.

So, if we apply ref counting rules consistently,
then each pointer in serial_table should be
ref counted. This will completely break the current
code, which erases serial_table from destroy_serial,
which is called only when the ref count goes to 0,
which will never happen if serial_table is ref
counted.
However, this can be fixed if usb_serial_disconnect
will erase pointers in serial_table before
calling usb_serial_put.

Now, I am not yet 100% convinced that ref counting
will, indeed, work. Atomics are known to have
problems on SMP CPUs, which can reorder operations.
But I would not discard atomics yet.
Global mutex is go ugly.

John


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      reply	other threads:[~2006-12-22 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-19 19:21 Possible race condition in usb-serial.c J
2006-12-19 20:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-12-19 22:33   ` J
2006-12-20  9:47     ` Oliver Neukum
2006-12-20 15:10       ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Stern
2006-12-20 21:02         ` Oliver Neukum
2006-12-20 19:32       ` J
2006-12-20 20:43         ` Greg KH
2006-12-20 22:39           ` J
2006-12-20 22:52             ` Greg KH
2006-12-20 20:43         ` Oliver Neukum
2006-12-20 22:24           ` J
2006-12-22 18:14             ` Oliver Neukum
2006-12-22 19:08               ` J
2006-12-22 19:59                 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-12-22 20:51                   ` J [this message]

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