From: Adam Goryachev <mailinglists@websitemanagers.com.au>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>, Tejas Rao <raot@bnl.gov>,
Scott Sinno <scott.sinno@nasa.gov>,
linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "Knister,
Aaron S. (GSFC-606.2)[COMPUTER SCIENCE CORP]"
<aaron.s.knister@nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: clustered MD - beyond RAID1
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:29:08 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56787D34.7020108@websitemanagers.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8737uv4fz6.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>
On 22/12/15 09:03, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 22 2015, Tejas Rao wrote:
>
>> On 12/21/2015 15:47, NeilBrown wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 22 2015, Tejas Rao wrote:
>>>
>>>> What if the application is doing the locking and making sure that only 1
>>>> node writes to a md device at a time? Will this work? How are rebuilds
>>>> handled? This would be helpful with distributed filesystems like
>>>> GPFS/lustre etc.
>>>>
>>> You would also need to make sure that the filesystem only wrote from a
>>> single node at a time (or access the block device directly). I doubt
>>> GPFS/lustre make any promise like that, but I'm happy to be educated.
>>>
>>> rebuilds are handled by using a cluster-wide lock to block all writes to
>>> a range of addresses while those stripes are repaired.
>>>
>>> NeilBrown
My understanding of MD level cross host RAID was that it would not
magically create cluster aware filesystems out of non-cluster aware
filesystems. ie, you wouldn't be able to use the same multi-host RAID
device on multiple hosts concurrently with ext3.
IMHO, if it was able to behave similar to DRBD, then that would be
perfect (ie, enforce only a single node can write at a time (unless you
specifically set it for multi-node write)). The benefit should be that
you can lose a node without losing your data. After you lose that node,
you can then "do something" to use the remaining node to access the data
(eg, mount it, export with iscsi/nfs, etc).
Currently, this is what I use DRBD for, previously, I've used NBD + MD
RAID1 to do the same thing. One question though is what advantage
multi-host MD RAID might have over the existing in-kernel DRBD ? Are
there plans which show why this is going to be better, have better
performance, features, etc?
Regards,
Adam
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Adam Goryachev Website Managers www.websitemanagers.com.au
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-21 22:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-18 15:29 clustered MD - beyond RAID1 Scott Sinno
2015-12-20 23:25 ` NeilBrown
2015-12-21 19:19 ` Tejas Rao
2015-12-21 20:47 ` NeilBrown
2015-12-21 21:27 ` Tejas Rao
2015-12-21 22:03 ` NeilBrown
2015-12-21 22:29 ` Adam Goryachev [this message]
2015-12-21 23:09 ` NeilBrown
2015-12-22 1:36 ` Tejas Rao
2015-12-22 2:29 ` Alireza Haghdoost
2015-12-22 4:13 ` NeilBrown
[not found] ` <CAB9NSeXhoHd3_BDRrWAsBrW0Dj2=NucyUFt8pSP0zB5K=RkUOg@mail.gmail.com>
2016-12-05 1:46 ` Aaron Knister
[not found] ` <5678A2B9.6070008@bnl.gov>
2015-12-22 1:50 ` Aaron Knister
2015-12-22 2:33 ` Tejas Rao
[not found] ` <5678B693.40907-IGkKxAqZmp0@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-25 8:47 ` roger zhou
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2016-12-02 18:12 Robert Woodworth
2016-12-02 20:02 ` Shaohua Li
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