From: LC Bruzenak <lenny@magitekltd.com>
To: linux-audit@redhat.com
Subject: Re: New draft standards
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 12:28:42 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5682DEEA.4040803@magitekltd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1736195.o09BuzvBta@x2>
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On 12/14/2015 08:34 AM, Steve Grubb wrote:
> That is not exactly what I proposed. What I was proposing was to record the
> translation of things that could change between systems and thus prevent
> correct interpretation later. Doing all translations is technically possible
> but would slow down auditd just a bit and increase the amount of data on disk.
> But doing this is not really necessary for the native audit tools.
>
> But I guess this gives me an opportunity to ask the community what tools they
> are using for audit log collection and viewing? Its been a couple years since
> e had this discussion on the mail list and I think some things have changed.
>
> Do people use ELK?
> Apache Flume?
> Something else?
>
> It might be possible to write a plugin to translate the audit logs into the
> native format of these tools.
Sorry for the late reply. Translating the salient details is for me
important.
This is especially true on systems where:
- aggregation is happening from one or more different machines (and
cannot assume federated UIDs), and
- where records are required to be kept over long periods of time
(system updates happen, UIDs are changed, people leave, etc)
I realize it carries a processing burden somewhere; this is inevitable
and I believe we'll need to design for this.
We're auditing for a reason; we need proof of who did what and in
varying degrees I believe this means persistence of accountability.
Because I'm almost a one-stop shop where I work, and the auditing
requirements are specific and particular, I have a homegrown log
collection and viewing solution for now but would prefer to incorporate
a flexible, more useful user tool. So I'm in the "something else"
category but somewhat open to change.
LCB
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LC (Lenny) Bruzenak
lenny@magitekltd.com
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-29 19:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-08 19:22 New draft standards Steve Grubb
2015-12-08 19:58 ` Paul Moore
2015-12-08 20:25 ` Steve Grubb
2015-12-09 0:28 ` Paul Moore
2015-12-09 1:43 ` Burn Alting
2015-12-10 22:49 ` Steve Grubb
2015-12-10 22:59 ` Paul Moore
2015-12-15 5:11 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2015-12-10 4:35 ` Steve Grubb
2015-12-10 16:50 ` Paul Moore
2015-12-10 17:40 ` F Rafi
2015-12-14 15:34 ` Steve Grubb
2015-12-14 16:38 ` Joe Wulf
2015-12-14 17:01 ` Kevin.Dienst
2015-12-14 22:12 ` Burn Alting
2015-12-15 13:46 ` Steve Grubb
2015-12-18 5:12 ` Burn Alting
2015-12-23 22:44 ` Burn Alting
2015-12-26 16:38 ` Steve Grubb
2015-12-27 0:30 ` Burn Alting
2015-12-27 15:06 ` Steve Grubb
2015-12-28 7:24 ` Burn Alting
2015-12-29 19:28 ` LC Bruzenak [this message]
2015-12-08 20:49 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2015-12-08 21:28 ` Steve Grubb
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