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From: "Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko" <phcoder@gmail.com>
To: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar@gmail.com>,
	The development of GNU GRUB <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Cc: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Uniform commands for booting xen
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:06:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5693B6E6.9030903@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1447408236.18450.117.camel@citrix.com>


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On 13.11.2015 10:50, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-11-13 at 12:04 +0300, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
>>> How do you express modules other than kernel+initrd in that
>>> scheme, without grub needing to be aware of any new addition we
>>> may find necessary going forward?
>>>
>>
>> Are modules used by Xen self-identifying? Is it enough to simply pass
>> Xen kernel list of binary blobs or Xen kernel must be told what these
>> binary blobs are? If they are self identifying, why arm needs to be
>> passed module type in the first place?
> 
> At first Xen/ARM required the bootloader to identify, but that was since
> identified as causing madness and fixed by having Xen/ARM do as Xen/x86
> does and figure things out for itself, but I failed to communicate this
> clearly and things got implemented on the grub side under the old
> assumptions.
> 
This changes a lot. This removes most of hurdles towards uniformity. Are
you ok with replacing xen_kernel/xen_xsm/... with just xen_module and
dropping type altogether?
Do you think that it makes sense to have xen_initrd in order to have
in-memory initrd concatenation like baremetal counterpart? In either
case we can add it later. I'd rather not have a command than to change
its meaning later.
Jan, does it address your concerns?
> I just replied in more detail about that to Jan's mail, so I won't repeat
> myself further here.
> 
> Ian.
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-11 14:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-12 13:41 Uniform commands for booting xen Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2015-11-12 15:44 ` Jan Beulich
2015-11-12 15:44 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2015-11-12 16:46   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-11-12 16:46   ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2015-11-12 16:58   ` Andrei Borzenkov
2015-11-12 17:08     ` Jan Beulich
2015-11-12 17:08     ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2015-11-12 17:11       ` Andrei Borzenkov
2015-11-12 17:11       ` [Xen-devel] " Andrei Borzenkov
2015-11-12 16:58   ` Andrei Borzenkov
2015-11-12 17:09   ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2015-11-13  7:48     ` Jan Beulich
2015-11-13  9:04       ` Andrei Borzenkov
2015-11-13  9:04       ` [Xen-devel] " Andrei Borzenkov
2015-11-13  9:50         ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-11 14:06           ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko [this message]
2016-01-11 14:32             ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-11 14:32             ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2016-01-11 14:58               ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2016-01-11 15:36                 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-11 15:36                   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-11 14:58               ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2016-01-18 10:28             ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2016-01-22  9:14               ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2016-01-22  9:14               ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2016-01-18 10:28             ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-11 14:06           ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2015-11-13  9:50         ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-13  9:48       ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2015-11-13  9:48       ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-13  7:48     ` Jan Beulich
2015-11-12 17:09   ` Ian Campbell

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