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From: Ben Skeggs <bskeggs-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Ilia Mirkin <imirkin-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>,
	Alexandre Courbot
	<gnurou-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "nouveau-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org"
	<nouveau-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] nouveau: unified firmware loading functions
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:26:27 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <569C8593.3040907@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKb7Uvh4kyYo509BJ=nuS6_Z2TAm09v=DN4qyf=r_6-7h3m68w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>


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On 01/18/2016 04:20 PM, Ilia Mirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 1:15 AM, Alexandre Courbot <gnurou-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Ilia Mirkin <imirkin-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> All the video decoding firmware was *pretty* standard... I suspect
>>> ~everyone used my extraction script and it's sitting in
>>> /lib/firmware/nouveau for everyone who uses VDPAU. There are packages
>>> in several distributions which grab the nvidia blob, my script, and
>>> run the extraction on the end user's computer to avoid licensing
>>> complications. Please support the existing locations.
>>
>> Ok, so there *are* some end-users (not developers) relying on these
>> external firmwares?
>>
>> In that case probably the best thing to do is to not use these new
>> functions for video - at least for chips that do not require signed
>> firmware. All I'd like to do is reduce the number of occurences of the
>> "build path - load firmware" logic.
> 
> Yep. And FWIW there were users of pgraph firmware loading with the old
> paths too :( For some users, the blob pgraph fw is stable while
> nouveau one isn't. But hopefully not that many, I think VDPAU has a
> lot more. VDPAU is currently supported through Kepler.
I don't think it's worth supporting the soon-to-be-old gr ucode paths
going forward.  Our implementation of using the binary driver gr
firmware is pretty broken anyway (outside of Tegra), and works by
accident mostly.  I suspect most (if not all) of the issues with our
ucode have been ironed out now too, no?

There's probably a legitimate case for keeping support for the video
paths, especially since we don't know if/when/what-form nvidia will
distrubute them in.

Ben.

> 
>   -ilia
> 


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      parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-18  6:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-18  6:07 [PATCH 0/5] nouveau: unified firmware loading functions Alexandre Courbot
     [not found] ` <1453097233-11838-1-git-send-email-acourbot-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18  6:07   ` [PATCH 1/5] core: add firmware handling functions Alexandre Courbot
     [not found]     ` <1453097233-11838-2-git-send-email-acourbot-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21 11:41       ` Emil Velikov
     [not found]         ` <CACvgo51AqAvTH5D9AUmzZWPQu+DkWnuGgms3-L8iL8S_tJyiNA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-25  2:11           ` Alexandre Courbot
     [not found]             ` <CAAVeFuK+FpokzjphGweewv3N5v08isgcuRbpkfbWoxEB2L7a_A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27  0:24               ` Emil Velikov
2016-01-18  6:07   ` [PATCH 2/5] gr/gf100: use the nvkm_firmware functions Alexandre Courbot
2016-01-18  6:07   ` [PATCH 3/5] falcon: " Alexandre Courbot
2016-01-18  6:07   ` [PATCH 4/5] xtensa: " Alexandre Courbot
2016-01-18  6:07   ` [PATCH 5/5] bios: " Alexandre Courbot
2016-01-18  6:11   ` [PATCH 0/5] nouveau: unified firmware loading functions Ilia Mirkin
     [not found]     ` <CAKb7UvjAk-HBmJuyrLewK49qo_27trCtXW+oFW7TQ74rjNHsPQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18  6:15       ` Alexandre Courbot
     [not found]         ` <CAAVeFu+n5H5WQgwhkPZXUP53SrGAG=e7EWmtUdTo1bNhFCgZhg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18  6:20           ` Ilia Mirkin
     [not found]             ` <CAKb7Uvh4kyYo509BJ=nuS6_Z2TAm09v=DN4qyf=r_6-7h3m68w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18  6:26               ` Ben Skeggs [this message]

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