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From: Joshua Kinard <kumba@gentoo.org>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>, Chien Lee <chienlee@qnap.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, shli@kernel.org,
	owner-linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC/RFT] md: allow resync to go faster when there is competing IO.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 04:58:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56A9E649.9010006@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wpqu1jrl.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>

On 01/27/2016 22:10, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 27 2016, Chien Lee wrote:
> 
>> 2016-01-27 6:12 GMT+08:00 NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>:
>>> On Tue, Jan 26 2016, Chien Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Recently we find a bug about this patch (commit No. is
>>>> ac8fa4196d205ac8fff3f8932bddbad4f16e4110 ).
>>>>
>>>> We know that this patch committed after Linux kernel 4.1.x is intended
>>>> to allowing resync to go faster when there is competing IO. However,
>>>> we find the performance of random read on syncing Raid6 will come up
>>>> with a huge drop in this case. The following is our testing detail.
>>>>
>>>> The OS what we choose in our test is CentOS Linux release 7.1.1503
>>>> (Core) and the kernel image will be replaced for testing. In our
>>>> testing result, the 4K random read performance on syncing raid6 in
>>>> Kernel 4.2.8 is much lower than in Kernel 3.19.8. In order to find out
>>>> the root cause, we try to rollback this patch in Kernel 4.2.8, and we
>>>> find the 4K random read performance on syncing Raid6 will be improved
>>>> and go back to as what it should be in Kernel 3.19.8.
>>>>
>>>> Nevertheless, it seems that it will not affect some other read/write
>>>> patterns. In our testing result, the 1M sequential read/write, 4K
>>>> random write performance in Kernel 4.2.8 is performed almost the same
>>>> as in Kernel 3.19.8.
>>>>
>>>> It seems that although this patch increases the resync speed, the
>>>> logic of !is_mddev_idle() cause the sync request wait too short and
>>>> reduce the chance for raid5d to handle the random read I/O.
>>>
>>> This has been raised before.
>>> Can you please try the patch at the end of
>>>
>>>   http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.raid/51002
>>>
>>> and let me know if it makes any difference.  If it isn't sufficient I
>>> will explore further.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> NeilBrown
>>
>>
>> Hello Neil,
>>
>> I try the patch (http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.raid/51002) in
>> Kernel 4.2.8. Here are the test results:
>>
>>
>> Part I. SSD (4 x 240GB Intel SSD create Raid6(syncing))
>>
>> a.  4K Random Read, numjobs=64
>>
>>                                    Average Throughput    Average IOPS
>>
>> Kernel 4.2.8 Patch             601249KB/s              150312
>>
>>
>> b.  4K Random Read, numjobs=1
>>
>>                                    Average Throughput    Average IOPS
>>
>> Kernel 4.2.8 Patch             1166.4KB/s                  291
>>
>>
>>
>> Part II. HDD (4 x 1TB TOSHIBA HDD create Raid6(syncing))
>>
>> a.  4K Random Read, numjobs=64
>>
>>                                    Average Throughput    Average IOPS
>>
>> Kernel 4.2.8 Patch              2946.4KB/s                 736
>>
>>
>> b.  4K Random Read, numjobs=1
>>
>>                                    Average Throughput    Average IOPS
>>
>> Kernel 4.2.8 Patch              119199 B/s                   28
>>
>>
>> Although the performance that compare to the original Kernel 4.2.8
>> test results is increased, the patch
>> (http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=ac8fa4196d205ac8fff3f8932bddbad4f16e4110)
>> rollback still has the best performance. I also observe the sync speed
>> at numjobs=64 almost drop to the sync_speed_min, but sync speed at
>> numjobs=1 almost keep in the original speed.
>>
>> >From my test results, I think this patch isn't sufficient that maybe
>> Neil can explore further and give me some advice.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chien Lee
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Following is our test environment and some testing results:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OS: CentOS Linux release 7.1.1503 (Core)
>>>>
>>>> CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1245 v3 @ 3.40GHz
>>>>
>>>> Processor number: 8
>>>>
>>>> Memory: 12GB
>>>>
>>>> fio command:
>>>>
>>>> 1.      (for numjobs=64):
>>>>
>>>> fio --filename=/dev/md2 --sync=0 --direct=0 --rw=randread --bs=4K
>>>> --runtime=180 --size=50G --name=test-read --ioengine=libaio
>>>> --numjobs=64 --iodepth=1 --group_reporting
>>>>
>>>> 2.      (for numjobs=1):
>>>>
>>>> fio --filename=/dev/md2 --sync=0 --direct=0 --rw=randread --bs=4K
>>>> --runtime=180 --size=50G --name=test-read --ioengine=libaio
>>>> --numjobs=1 --iodepth=1 --group_reporting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here are test results:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Part I. SSD (4 x 240GB Intel SSD create Raid6(syncing))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a.      4K Random Read, numjobs=64
>>>>
>>>>                                              Average Throughput    Average IOPS
>>>>
>>>> Kernel 3.19.8                                 715937KB/s              178984
>>>>
>>>> Kernel 4.2.8                                   489874KB/s              122462
>>>>
>>>> Kernel 4.2.8 Patch Rollback            717377KB/s              179344
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> b.      4K Random Read, numjobs=1
>>>>
>>>>                                              Average Throughput    Average IOPS
>>>>
>>>> Kernel 3.19.8                                 32203KB/s                8051
>>>>
>>>> Kernel 4.2.8                                  2535.7KB/s                633
>>>>
>>>> Kernel 4.2.8 Patch Rollback            31861KB/s                7965
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Part II. HDD (4 x 1TB TOSHIBA HDD create Raid6(syncing))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a.      4K Random Read, numjobs=64
>>>>
>>>>                                              Average Throughput    Average IOPS
>>>>
>>>> Kernel 3.19.8                                2976.6KB/s               744
>>>>
>>>> Kernel 4.2.8                                  2915.8KB/s               728
>>>>
>>>> Kernel 4.2.8 Patch Rollback           2973.3KB/s               743
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> b.      4K Random Read, numjobs=1
>>>>
>>>>                                              Average Throughput    Average IOPS
>>>>
>>>> Kernel 3.19.8                                481844 B/s                 117
>>>>
>>>> Kernel 4.2.8                                   24718 B/s                   5
>>>>
>>>> Kernel 4.2.8 Patch Rollback           460090 B/s                 112
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Chien Lee
> 
> Thanks for testing.
> 
> I'd like to suggest that these results are fairly reasonable for the
> numjobs=64 case.  Certainly read-speed is reduced by presumably resync
> speed is increased.
> The numbers for numjob=1 are appalling though.  That would generally
> affect any synchronous load.  As the synchronous load doesn't interfere
> much with the resync load, the delays that are inserted won't be very
> long.
> 
> I feel there must be an answer here -  I just cannot find it.
> I'd like to be able to dynamically estimate the bandwidth of the array
> and use (say) 10% of that, but I cannot think of a way to do that at all
> reliably.
> 
> I'll ponder it a bit longer.  We may need to ultimately revert that
> patch, but not yet.
> 
> Thanks,
> NeilBrown
> 

So I was one of the original reporters who noticed the problem on some old SGI
hardware that uses a QL1040B chipset.  Per hdparm -tT, the upper-end of the
speed to an MD device on this machine (an SGI Octane) is ~18.5MB/s.

I've been testing other kernel changes on this system, and finally managed to
scramble one of the disks enough that MD kicked off a resync on my largest
partition when booting and slowed the userland bringup down.  But, I also
recently enabled the bitmaps feature, and while it took about ~20mins to boot
to runlevel 3, by the time it got there, the resync had completed.  Usually, if
MD forces a resync, it'd resync that entire partition, which usually took 2+ hours.

So, a win for bitmaps, but the resync issue does need to be dealt with at some
point.  I suspect I noticed it first because this isn't exactly fast hardware
for this day and age (dual 600MHz CPUs), and the modified resync algorithm is
more aggressive in grabbing resources to complete its job (which I don't blame
it, you're skating on thin ice during the small resync window).

As far as a solution, can MD, when it needs to resync, run a test similar to
hdparm to check the speed to one of the member disks and use that value as a
basis to calculate the I/O it needs?  I.e., if it can determine that the upper
bound is ~18.5MB/s, it can then work out how much to use when the system is
idle and when it's not idle?

-- 
Joshua Kinard
Gentoo/MIPS
kumba@gentoo.org
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-28  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-26  2:32 [PATCH/RFC/RFT] md: allow resync to go faster when there is competing IO Chien Lee
2016-01-26 22:12 ` NeilBrown
2016-01-26 22:52   ` Shaohua Li
2016-01-26 23:08     ` NeilBrown
2016-01-26 23:27       ` Shaohua Li
2016-01-27  1:12         ` NeilBrown
2016-01-27  9:49   ` Chien Lee
2016-01-28  3:10     ` NeilBrown
2016-01-28  4:42       ` Chien Lee
2016-01-28  9:58       ` Joshua Kinard [this message]
2016-01-28 20:56       ` Shaohua Li
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-02-19  6:04 NeilBrown

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