From: Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
To: Emmanuel Grumbach <egrumbach@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2] mac80211: add A-MSDU tx support
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 12:49:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56B72F3E.9090708@openwrt.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANUX_P3kt90a2xiW=KtS7eA2movyne49OwG2XmJY6vrH7Oy12g@mail.gmail.com>
On 2016-02-07 12:32, Emmanuel Grumbach wrote:
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +static bool ieee80211_amsdu_aggregate(struct ieee80211_sub_if_data *sdata,
>>>>>>> + struct sta_info *sta,
>>>>>>> + struct ieee80211_fast_tx *fast_tx,
>>>>>>> + struct sk_buff *skb)
>>>>>>> +{
>>>>>>> + struct ieee80211_local *local = sdata->local;
>>>>>>> + u8 tid = skb->priority & IEEE80211_QOS_CTL_TAG1D_MASK;
>>>>>>> + struct ieee80211_txq *txq = sta->sta.txq[tid];
>>>>>>> + struct txq_info *txqi;
>>>>>>> + struct sk_buff **frag_tail, *head;
>>>>>>> + int subframe_len = skb->len - ETH_ALEN;
>>>>>>> + int max_amsdu_len;
>>>>>>> + __be16 len;
>>>>>>> + void *data;
>>>>>>> + bool ret = false;
>>>>>>> + int n = 1;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> + if (!ieee80211_hw_check(&local->hw, TX_AMSDU))
>>>>>>> + return false;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> + if (!txq)
>>>>>>> + return false;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> + txqi = to_txq_info(txq);
>>>>>>> + if (test_bit(IEEE80211_TXQ_NO_AMSDU, &txqi->flags))
>>>>>>> + return false;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> + /*
>>>>>>> + * A-MPDU limits maximum MPDU size to 4095 bytes. Since aggregation
>>>>>>> + * sessions are started/stopped without txq flush, use the limit here
>>>>>>> + * to avoid having to de-aggregate later.
>>>>>>> + */
>>>>>>> + max_amsdu_len = min_t(int, sta->sta.max_amsdu_len, 4095);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you can't get 10K A-MSDUs? I don't see where you check that you
>>>>>> have an A-MPDU session here. You seem to be applying the 4095 limit
>>>>>> also for streams that are not an A-MPDU?
>>>>>> I guess you could check if the sta is a VHT peer, in that case, no
>>>>>> limit applies.
>>>>> The explanation for the missing A-MPDU change is in that comment -
>>>>> checking for an active A-MPDU session would make it unnecessarily complex.
>>>>> Good point about checking for VHT capabilities to remove this limit, I
>>>>> will add that.
>>>
>>> Yes - I read the comment, but it seemed very sub-optimal to limit all
>>> the A-MSDUs to 4K. With TSO I can get up to 10K and it really helps
>>> TPT.
>> This was built with the assumption that most scenarios use A-MPDU anyway
>> and thus don't need really large A-MSDUs.
>
> Yes - so that's interesting. We can chose to have long A-MSDUs inside
> a short (in terms of number of MPDUs) A-MPDU, of with shorter A-MSDU
> and squeeze more of these into a single A-MDPU.
> The first intuition says that we'd better have more MPDUs because of
> the CRC check for each MPDU which doesn't exist in A-MSDU. OTOH, I
> remember I could clearly see that I get a higher TPT with longer
> A-MSDUs. Maybe I wasn't looking right at the size of the A-MPDU? I
> guess I'd need to go back to the table with all the values we had, but
> since we pretty much got what we wanted, I am not sure I will able to
> find time for this :)
I think it also depends on the environment. I'd guess that under very
ideal conditions with very few retransmissions, really long A-MSDU might
have some performance benefits, but I don't think that'll hold if the
conditions are less than ideal and you have rate fluctuation and
retransmissions.
>>> One more point. In VHT, there may be a limit on the numbers of
>>> subframes in the A-MSDU. I don't see you handle that. Maybe I missed
>>> it?
>> I haven't looked at that much yet. Right now the driver can only specify
>> a limit for the number of subframes.
>
> I am talking about a limitation the peer can advertise. Check this out:
> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/jberg/mac80211-next.git/tree/net/mac80211/cfg.c#n1134
>
> I couldn't see the limit the driver can specify in your code. I may
> very well have missed it.
I missed that one. Will add it in the next patch.
>>> This is an order 4 allocation, for each A-MSDU. Note
>>> that iwlwifi (and probably other drivers) can handle gather DMA in Tx,
>>> but they have a limited number of frags they can handle. iwlwifi e.g.
>>> can handle up to 20 frags, but 3 are taken for "paperwork". You'll
>>> have 2 frags per subframe at least (assuming that each subframe's
>>> payload is nicely contiguous and not on a page boundary). I think that
>>> it may be worthwhile to ask the driver how many frags it is supposed
>>> to handle. I can't promise iwlwifi will use it, but I guess it will be
>>> useful for someone.
>> You mean an extra frag limit in addition to the driver subframe limit,
>> in case individual subframes are fragmented as well?
>>
>
> well.. Yes, you can't assume that you'll have one descriptor for one
> MSDU payload (unless the driver doesn't advertise SG to the
> netstack).
Okay, please make a suggestion describing the exact kinds of limits you
would need for iwlwifi.
- Felix
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-07 11:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-05 10:41 [RFC v2] mac80211: add A-MSDU tx support Felix Fietkau
2016-02-07 7:25 ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2016-02-07 9:08 ` Felix Fietkau
2016-02-07 10:06 ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2016-02-07 10:22 ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2016-02-07 10:48 ` Felix Fietkau
2016-02-07 11:32 ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2016-02-07 11:49 ` Felix Fietkau [this message]
2016-02-07 11:56 ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2016-02-07 13:21 ` Felix Fietkau
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