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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/17] block: add generic full disk encryption driver
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 13:23:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56B8F940.4020503@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160208162844.GE20236@redhat.com>

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On 02/08/2016 09:28 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:

>> My vote: do the same as we do for qcow2 or any other format.  Make the
>> size requested by the user as the size visible to the guest, and a
>> fully-allocated image will take more space on the host than what the
>> guest is using (that is, a fully-allocated 10G LUKS disk would present
>> 10G payload to the guest but occupy 10G+1M on the host).
> 
> Yes, I had a todo item in the code asking which was better
> 
>     /* XXX Should we treat size as being total physical size
>      * of the image (ie payload + encryption header), or just
>      * the logical size of the image (ie payload). If the latter
>      * then we need to extend 'size' to include the header
>      * size */
>     qemu_opt_set_number(opts, BLOCK_OPT_SIZE, size, &error_abort);
> 
> And Fam suggested the same as you - show full 10 G to the guest.
> 
> The complication is that we need to create the backing file
> before we format the luks header, and we don't know the size
> of the luks header at that point. So either I could format
> the luks header into a temporary in-memory buffer, or I have
> to create the file and then resize it afterwards, or I have
> to provide some way to calculate the eventual header size
> prior to creating it. I didn't much like any of those options :-)

Well, if we hard-code stripes==4000, then we pretty much know that the
header is just under 1M for the maximum size key (aes-256); and rounding
up to 1M is nice for all cluster sizes except 2M.  I suppose we could
fit in 512k if we use a smaller key (aes-128), but would it hurt to just
hard-code a reservation of 1M?

>> Cool!  Would it be worth augmenting the commit message to show a
>> sequence of commands where you loopback mount a LUKS image file created
>> by qemu, then wire that up with cryptsetup, as a proof that the two are
>> compatible implementations?
> 
> My intent is to add something to tests/qemu-iotests that will check
> interoperability between qemu + cryptsetup. Slight complication is
> that those io tests all expect to run unprivileged. So it'll need
> a manual step run privileged to create the cryptsetup disk images
> for testing with.

We've checked in compressed binary images before; but 1M of key material
won't compress well.

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake redhat com    +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org


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  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-08 20:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-20 17:38 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/17] Support LUKS encryption in block devices Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/17] crypto: ensure qcrypto_hash_digest_len is always defined Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21  6:12   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 02/17] crypto: add cryptographic random byte source Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21  6:12   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21  8:59     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-04 17:44   ` Eric Blake
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 03/17] crypto: add support for PBKDF2 algorithm Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21  6:59   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21 10:59     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-04 22:14   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-05  9:23     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05 10:13     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 04/17] crypto: add support for generating initialization vectors Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21  7:51   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21 11:00     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-04 22:57   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-05 10:23     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05 13:23       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 05/17] crypto: add support for anti-forensic split algorithm Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21  8:37   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21 11:01     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-04 23:26   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-05 12:37     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05 12:39     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/17] crypto: add block encryption framework Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05  0:23   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-05 12:43     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05 18:48       ` Eric Blake
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/17] crypto: implement the LUKS block encryption format Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05 17:38   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-08 16:03     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 08/17] block: add flag to indicate that no I/O will be performed Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05 19:08   ` Eric Blake
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 09/17] qemu-img/qemu-io: don't prompt for passwords if not required Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05 19:52   ` Eric Blake
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/17] block: add generic full disk encryption driver Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21  9:12   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21 11:02     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21 13:01       ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21 13:12         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05 22:20   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-08 16:28     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-08 20:23       ` Eric Blake [this message]
2016-02-09  9:55         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 11/17] qcow2: make qcow2_encrypt_sectors encrypt in place Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21  9:13   ` Fam Zheng
2016-02-05 23:22   ` Eric Blake
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 12/17] qcow2: convert QCow2 to use QCryptoBlock for encryption Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21  9:54   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21 10:50     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21 13:56       ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21 14:03         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-08 18:12   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-09 12:32     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 13/17] qcow: make encrypt_sectors encrypt in place Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-08 20:30   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-09 12:33     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 14/17] qcow: convert QCow to use QCryptoBlock for encryption Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-08 20:57   ` Eric Blake
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 15/17] block: rip out all traces of password prompting Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21 13:02   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21 13:11     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 16/17] block: remove all encryption handling APIs Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-08 21:23   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-09 12:34     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 17/17] block: remove support for legecy AES qcow/qcow2 encryption Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-08 21:26   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-09 12:35     ` Daniel P. Berrange

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