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From: Steve Muckle <steve.muckle@linaro.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Linux PM list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] cpufreq: Replace timers with utilization update callbacks
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 17:02:33 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56BA8C29.4090905@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5387313.xAhVpzgZCg@vostro.rjw.lan>

On 02/09/2016 12:05 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>> One concern I had was, given that the lone scheduler update hook is in
>>> CFS, is it possible for governor updates to be stalled due to RT or DL
>>> task activity?
>>
>> I don't think they may be completely stalled, but I'd prefer Peter to
>> answer that as he suggested to do it this way.
> 
> In any case, if that concern turns out to be significant in practice, it may
> be addressed like in the appended modification of patch [1/3] from the $subject
> series.
> 
> With that things look like before from the cpufreq side, but the other sched
> classes also get a chance to trigger a cpufreq update.  The drawback is the
> cpu_clock() call instead of passing the time value from update_load_avg(), but
> I guess we can live with that if necessary.
> 
> FWIW, this modification doesn't seem to break things on my test machine.
> 
...
> Index: linux-pm/kernel/sched/rt.c
> ===================================================================
> --- linux-pm.orig/kernel/sched/rt.c
> +++ linux-pm/kernel/sched/rt.c
> @@ -2212,6 +2212,9 @@ static void task_tick_rt(struct rq *rq,
>  
>  	update_curr_rt(rq);
>  
> +	/* Kick cpufreq to prevent it from stalling. */
> +	cpufreq_kick();
> +
>  	watchdog(rq, p);
>  
>  	/*
> Index: linux-pm/kernel/sched/deadline.c
> ===================================================================
> --- linux-pm.orig/kernel/sched/deadline.c
> +++ linux-pm/kernel/sched/deadline.c
> @@ -1197,6 +1197,9 @@ static void task_tick_dl(struct rq *rq,
>  {
>  	update_curr_dl(rq);
>  
> +	/* Kick cpufreq to prevent it from stalling. */
> +	cpufreq_kick();
> +
>  	/*
>  	 * Even when we have runtime, update_curr_dl() might have resulted in us
>  	 * not being the leftmost task anymore. In that case NEED_RESCHED will

I think additional hooks such as enqueue/dequeue would be needed in
RT/DL. The task tick callbacks will only run if a task in that class is
executing at the time of the tick. There could be intermittent RT/DL
task activity in a frequency domain (the only task activity there, no
CFS tasks) that doesn't happen to overlap the tick. Worst case the task
activity could be periodic in such a way that it never overlaps the tick
and the update is never made.

thanks,
steve

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-10  1:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-29 22:52 [PATCH 0/3] cpufreq: Replace timers with utilization update callbacks Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-29 22:53 ` [PATCH 1/3] cpufreq: Add a mechanism for registering " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-04  3:31   ` Viresh Kumar
2016-01-29 22:56 ` [PATCH 2/3] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Replace timers with " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-29 22:59 ` [PATCH 3/3] cpufreq: governor: " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03  1:16   ` [Update][PATCH " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-04  4:49     ` Viresh Kumar
2016-02-04 10:54       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-05  1:28     ` [PATCH 3/3 v3] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-05  6:50       ` Viresh Kumar
2016-02-05 13:36         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-05 14:47           ` Viresh Kumar
2016-02-05 23:10             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-07  9:10               ` Viresh Kumar
2016-02-07 14:43                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-08  2:08                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-08 11:52                     ` Viresh Kumar
2016-02-08 12:52                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-08 13:40                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-05 23:01           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-06  3:40       ` [PATCH 3/3 v4] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-07  9:20         ` Viresh Kumar
2016-02-07 14:36           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-07 14:50         ` [PATCH 3/3 v5] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-07 15:36           ` Viresh Kumar
2016-02-09 10:01           ` Gautham R Shenoy
2016-02-09 18:49             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 22:20 ` [PATCH 0/3] cpufreq: " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-04  0:08   ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-02-04 17:16     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-04 10:51   ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-04 17:19     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-08 23:06   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-09  0:39     ` Steve Muckle
2016-02-09  1:01       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-09 20:05         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-10  1:02           ` Steve Muckle [this message]
2016-02-10  1:57             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-10  3:09               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-10 19:47                 ` Steve Muckle
2016-02-10 21:49                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-10 22:07                     ` Steve Muckle
2016-02-10 22:12                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-11 11:59             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-11 12:24               ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-11 15:26                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-11 18:23                   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-02-12 14:04                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-12 14:48                       ` Vincent Guittot
2016-03-01 13:58                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-01 14:17                           ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-01 14:24                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-01 14:26                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-01 14:42                                 ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-01 15:04                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-01 19:49                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-01 14:58                           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-02-11 17:06               ` Steve Muckle
2016-02-11 17:30                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-11 17:34                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-11 17:38                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-11 18:52                   ` Steve Muckle
2016-02-11 19:04                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-12 13:43                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-12 14:10                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-12 16:01                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-12 16:15                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-12 16:53                           ` Ashwin Chaugule
2016-02-12 23:14                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-12 17:02                         ` Doug Smythies
2016-02-12 23:17                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-10 12:33           ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-10 13:23             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-10 14:03               ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-10 14:26                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-10 14:46                   ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-10 15:46                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-10 16:05                       ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-11 11:51           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-11 12:08             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-11 15:29               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-11 15:58                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-11 20:47               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-10 15:17 ` [PATCH v6 " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-10 15:21   ` [PATCH v6 1/3] cpufreq: Add mechanism for registering " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-10 23:01     ` [PATCH v7 " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-11 17:30       ` [PATCH v8 " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-12 13:16         ` [PATCH v9 " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-15 21:47           ` [PATCH v10 " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-18 20:22             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-19  8:09               ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-19 16:42                 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-02-19 17:26                   ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-19 22:26                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-22  9:42                       ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-22 21:41                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-23 11:10                           ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-24  1:52                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-22 10:45                       ` Viresh Kumar
2016-02-19 17:28                   ` Steve Muckle
2016-02-19 22:35                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-23  3:58                       ` Steve Muckle
2016-02-22 10:52                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-22 14:33                       ` Vincent Guittot
2016-02-22 15:31                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-22 14:40                       ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-22 15:42                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-22 21:46                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-19 22:14                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-22  9:32                   ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-22 21:26                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-23 11:01                       ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-24  2:01                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-08 19:24                           ` Michael Turquette
2016-03-08 20:40                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                               ` <20160308220632.4103.13377@quark.deferred.io>
2016-03-08 22:43                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-09 12:35             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-09 13:22               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-09 13:32               ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-09 13:39                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-10  2:12               ` Vincent Guittot
2016-02-10 15:25   ` [PATCH v6 2/3] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Replace timers with " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-10 15:36   ` [PATCH v6 3/3] cpufreq: governor: " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-10 23:11   ` [PATCH v6 0/3] cpufreq: " Doug Smythies
2016-02-10 23:17     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-11 22:50       ` Doug Smythies
2016-02-11 23:28         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-12  1:02           ` Doug Smythies
2016-02-12  1:20             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-12  7:25         ` Doug Smythies
2016-02-12 13:39           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-12 17:33             ` Doug Smythies
2016-02-12 23:21               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-11  6:02     ` Srinivas Pandruvada

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