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From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@gnu.org>
Cc: zhanghailiang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>,
	Li Zhijian <lizhijian@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Vasiliy Tolstov <v.tolstov@selfip.ru>,
	Dave Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Yann Bordenave <meow@meowstars.org>,
	Gonglei <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Huangpeng <peter.huangpeng@huawei.com>,
	Yang Hongyang <yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Guillaume Subiron <maethor@subiron.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv7 9/9] qapi-schema, qemu-options & slirp: Adding Qemu options for IPv6 addresses
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 21:30:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56BCEF53.6090400@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160210130849.GB18383@redhat.com>

On 10.02.2016 14:08, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 01:45:22PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>> Thomas Huth, on Wed 10 Feb 2016 12:39:10 +0100, wrote:
>>>> +    if (!vprefix6) {
>>>> +        vprefix6 = "fec0::";
>>>
>>> Site-local prefixes have already been deprecated (see rfc3879) ... would
>>> it be feasible to use a ULA prefix instead (fd00::/8,
>>> see rfc4193) ?
>>
>> The question is which ULA. Ideally we'd take a random one at each qemu
>> startup, but then it's a pain for users to type IPs by hand, all the
>> more so when it changes at each qemu startup. Another way is to have the
>> same in all qemu instances, hardcoded in qemu, i.e. like
>>
>> https://xkcd.com/221/
>>
>> proposes. That's still a pain to type, even if it is always the same,
>> and can still (since it's the same for all qemu instances) pose some of
>> the problems raised by rfc3879. The rfc1918 addresses we use in qemu
>> for ipv4 have the same issues. That's why I considered that the issues
>> mentioned by rfc3879 would not be relevant to qemu, and be simpler to
>> just use fec0::, and let the user chose his public or ULA prefix if he
>> needs it.
> 
> I'm inclined to agree that fec0:: is a better bet for QEMU's default
> usage, despite rfc3879. As you say it is no worse than what we have
> with IPv4, and IMHO it is preferrable to using a fixed ULA since that
> would be non-compliant with the RFC which requires randomness.

Ok, then let's go with fec0:: first. We still can change it later if
necessary.

 Thomas

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-11 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-08 10:28 [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv7 0/9] slirp: Adding IPv6 support to Qemu -net user mode Samuel Thibault
2016-02-08 10:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv7 1/9] slirp: Adding IPv6, ICMPv6 Echo and NDP autoconfiguration Samuel Thibault
2016-02-09 16:14   ` Thomas Huth
2016-02-09 16:31     ` Samuel Thibault
2016-02-09 19:32       ` Thomas Huth
2016-02-09 20:16         ` Samuel Thibault
2016-02-09 16:31     ` Eric Blake
2016-02-09 16:35       ` Samuel Thibault
2016-02-09 19:56     ` Samuel Thibault
2016-02-09 20:49       ` Thomas Huth
2016-02-09 20:31     ` Samuel Thibault
2016-02-08 10:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv7 2/9] slirp: Adding ICMPv6 error sending Samuel Thibault
2016-02-09 19:48   ` Thomas Huth
2016-02-08 10:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv7 3/9] slirp: Adding IPv6 UDP support Samuel Thibault
2016-02-09 20:44   ` Thomas Huth
2016-02-09 21:13     ` Samuel Thibault
2016-02-09 21:19       ` Samuel Thibault
2016-02-10  7:18         ` Thomas Huth
2016-02-10  7:37           ` Samuel Thibault
2016-02-08 10:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv7 4/9] slirp: Factorizing tcpiphdr structure with an union Samuel Thibault
2016-02-10  8:05   ` Thomas Huth
2016-02-10  9:28     ` Samuel Thibault
2016-02-10 10:08       ` Thomas Huth
2016-02-10 12:20         ` Samuel Thibault
2016-02-08 10:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv7 5/9] slirp: Generalizing and neutralizing various TCP functions before adding IPv6 stuff Samuel Thibault
2016-02-10  8:35   ` Thomas Huth
2016-02-10  9:17     ` Samuel Thibault
2016-02-08 10:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv7 6/9] slirp: Reindent after refactoring Samuel Thibault
2016-02-10  8:42   ` Thomas Huth
2016-02-10  9:20     ` Samuel Thibault
2016-02-11 17:56       ` Eric Blake
2016-02-11 18:15         ` Samuel Thibault
2016-02-08 10:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv7 7/9] slirp: Handle IPv6 in TCP functions Samuel Thibault
2016-02-10 10:47   ` Thomas Huth
2016-02-10 12:30     ` Samuel Thibault
2016-02-10 12:41       ` Thomas Huth
2016-02-08 10:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv7 8/9] slirp: Adding IPv6 address for DNS relay Samuel Thibault
2016-02-08 10:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv7 9/9] qapi-schema, qemu-options & slirp: Adding Qemu options for IPv6 addresses Samuel Thibault
2016-02-08 22:12   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-10 11:39   ` Thomas Huth
2016-02-10 12:45     ` Samuel Thibault
2016-02-10 13:08       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-11 20:30         ` Thomas Huth [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-02-14 17:47 [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv8 0/9] slirp: Adding IPv6 support to Qemu -net user mode Samuel Thibault
2016-02-14 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv7 9/9] qapi-schema, qemu-options & slirp: Adding Qemu options for IPv6 addresses Samuel Thibault
2016-02-17 11:59   ` Thomas Huth
2016-02-19  0:35     ` Samuel Thibault

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