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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: xen-devel@lists.xen.org, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/8] xen/x86: Improvements to build-time pagetable generation
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 17:28:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56CDE84A.2090308@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56CDEF7402000078000D5DC4@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>

On 24/02/16 16:59, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 24.02.16 at 17:14, <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>> On 24/02/16 15:48, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 24.02.16 at 16:22, <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>> On 24/02/16 15:18, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 24.02.16 at 15:58, <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 24/02/16 14:15, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 24.02.16 at 14:57, <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 24/02/16 11:24, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>>>>  >>> On 23.02.16 at 17:31, <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>  GLOBAL(l1_identmap)
>>>>>>>>>> -        pfn = 0
>>>>>>>>>> +        idx = 0
>>>>>>>>>>          .rept L1_PAGETABLE_ENTRIES
>>>>>>>>>>          /* VGA hole (0xa0000-0xc0000) should be mapped UC. */
>>>>>>>>>> -        .if pfn >= 0xa0 && pfn < 0xc0
>>>>>>>>>> -        .long (pfn << PAGE_SHIFT) | PAGE_HYPERVISOR_NOCACHE | MAP_SMALL_PAGES
>>>>>>>>>> +        .if idx >= 0xa0 && idx < 0xc0
>>>>>>>>>> +        .quad (idx << PAGE_SHIFT) | PAGE_HYPERVISOR_NOCACHE
>>>>>>>>>>          .else
>>>>>>>>>> -        .long (pfn << PAGE_SHIFT) | PAGE_HYPERVISOR | MAP_SMALL_PAGES
>>>>>>>>>> +        .quad (idx << PAGE_SHIFT) | PAGE_HYPERVISOR
>>>>>>>>> Please don't eliminate the MAP_SMALL_PAGES here, they serve an
>>>>>>>>> (at least documentation) purpose.
>>>>>>>> How?  Its in a l1 so are necessarily small pages, and the other l1's
>>>>>>>> don't use the constant.
>>>>>>> MAP_SMALL_PAGES documents (and enforces) that the mappings
>>>>>>> shouldn't be re-combined into 2M ones, even if - after adjustments
>>>>>>> to the other attributes - they could be.
>>>>>> In which case, is actively wrong.  Were the cacheabilities to change
>>>>>> (e.g. booting HVMLite and knowing that there was no legacy VGA hole),
>>>>>> the mappings should be recombined into a 2M superpage.
>>>>> No, I think there are reasons (to do with fixed range MTRRs and
>>>>> errata)
>>>> Any idea about which generation this might apply to?
>>> Just read the SDM sub-section "Large Page Size Considerations"
>>> inside the section on MTRRs.
>> Right, and all that says is "don't accidentally mix cacheabilities
>> between paging and MTRRs".
> Exactly. But we don't check back with the MTRRs when deciding
> whether to re-combine a large page. Hence that flag to prevent
> any such attempt.
>
> Plus it also says something about a performance impact when
> nevertheless using a large page for the first 2 or 4 MB.

The performance impact is only noted in relation to using "the most
conservative caching options".

I.e. if you use a 2M superpage and set UC because of mixed MTRRs, this
is a performance impact as the tradeoff against avoiding undefined
behaviour.

I will reinstate the bits for now, but I do intend them to be removed
longterm.

~Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-24 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-23 16:31 [PATCH v2 0/8] Map Xen code/data/bss with superpages Andrew Cooper
2016-02-23 16:31 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] xen/lockprof: Move .lockprofile.data into .rodata Andrew Cooper
2016-02-24 11:16   ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-23 16:31 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] xen/x86: Improvements to build-time pagetable generation Andrew Cooper
2016-02-24 11:24   ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-24 13:57     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-24 14:15       ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-24 14:58         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-24 15:18           ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-24 15:22             ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-24 15:48               ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-24 16:14                 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-24 16:59                   ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-24 17:28                     ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2016-02-23 16:31 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] xen/x86: Construct the {l2, l3}_bootmap at compile time Andrew Cooper
2016-02-24 11:34   ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-24 11:40     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-24 11:50       ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-24 12:07         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-23 16:31 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] xen/memguard: Drop memguard_init() entirely Andrew Cooper
2016-02-24 13:26   ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-24 15:02     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-02-23 16:31 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] xen/x86: Disable CR0.WP while applying alternatives Andrew Cooper
2016-02-23 16:31 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] xen/x86: Reorder .data and .init when linking Andrew Cooper
2016-02-24 11:41   ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-24 11:44     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-23 16:31 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] xen/x86: Use 2M superpages for text/data/bss mappings Andrew Cooper
2016-02-24 13:17   ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-24 13:21     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-24 13:23       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-23 16:31 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] xen/x86: Unilaterally remove .init mappings Andrew Cooper

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