From: Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com>
To: Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Huaitong Han <huaitong.han@intel.com>,
gleb@kernel.org
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 7/7] KVM, pkeys: disable PKU feature without ept
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 15:21:06 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56DFCEE2.3030101@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56DFC4BE.8080406@gmail.com>
On 03/09/2016 02:37 PM, Yang Zhang wrote:
> On 2016/3/9 13:51, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 03/08/2016 06:02 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 08/03/2016 10:32, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>>>> On 03/08/2016 04:47 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>>> Some XSAVE features (currently only MPX, but in the future PKRU too)
>>>>> will force eagerfpu on, see fpu__init_system_ctx_switch:
>>>>>
>>>>> if (xfeatures_mask & XFEATURE_MASK_EAGER) {
>>>>> if (eagerfpu == DISABLE) {
>>>>> xfeatures_mask &= ~XFEATURE_MASK_EAGER;
>>>>
>>>> So if the kernel parameter, eagerfpu is set to "off", then eager is not
>>>> enabled, so PKRU can not work in KVM?
>>>
>>> Yes. Neither PKRU nor MPX.
>>
>> Er... I noticed fpregs is not switched if the CPU is running in KVM module
>> (vcpu is not scheduled out and does not exit to userspace), that is why
>> read_pkru() can be used to read guest's PKRU in the patch 4.
>>
>> However, then guest can fully control the access of userspace's memory if
>> CR4.PKRU is enabled on host and KVM needs to access QEMU's memory to do
>> some
>> emulation anyway. Is it really safe?
>
> I think it depends on how we understand the guest uses Pkeys. From my point, guest only wants to
> protect the pages from guest's view, not kvm. So the access from KVM should be totally transparent
> to guest. And should not be aware by guest. For modification, i think current KVM only touch the DMA
> buffer which is setup by guest driver. It's guest responsibility to ensure the pages he want to
> protect are not used as DMA buffer.
>
No really. A example is KVM need to read guest memory to emulate some instructions.
More worse, the pkey-bits on pte entry is different between guest and host (they
are using different page tables) so guest can not know what index in PKRU will be
used by KVM. A evil guest can use it to attack host...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-09 7:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-05 11:27 [PATCH V4 0/7] KVM, pkeys: add memory protection-key support Huaitong Han
2016-03-05 11:27 ` [PATCH V4 1/7] KVM, pkeys: expose CPUID/CR4 to guest Huaitong Han
2016-03-06 7:15 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-03-06 23:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-08 7:39 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-03-08 7:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-05 11:27 ` [PATCH V4 2/7] KVM, pkeys: disable pkeys for guests in non-paging mode Huaitong Han
2016-03-06 7:19 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-03-08 12:09 ` Yang Zhang
2016-03-08 12:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-08 13:02 ` Yang Zhang
2016-03-05 11:27 ` [PATCH V4 3/7] KVM, pkeys: update memeory permission bitmask for pkeys Huaitong Han
2016-03-06 7:42 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-03-06 23:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-08 7:35 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-03-08 8:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-08 9:19 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-03-08 10:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-09 5:03 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-03-09 8:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-05 11:27 ` [PATCH V4 4/7] KVM, pkeys: add pkeys support for permission_fault logic Huaitong Han
2016-03-06 8:00 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-03-06 20:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-06 23:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-08 5:57 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-03-05 11:27 ` [PATCH V4 5/7] KVM, pkeys: Add pkeys support for gva_to_gpa funcions Huaitong Han
2016-03-06 8:01 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-03-06 21:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-05 11:27 ` [PATCH V4 6/7] KVM, pkeys: add pkeys support for xsave state Huaitong Han
2016-03-06 8:27 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-03-05 11:27 ` [PATCH V4 7/7] KVM, pkeys: disable PKU feature without ept Huaitong Han
2016-03-06 9:28 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-03-06 20:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-08 5:54 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-03-08 8:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-08 9:32 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-03-08 10:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-09 5:51 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-03-09 6:37 ` Yang Zhang
2016-03-09 7:21 ` Xiao Guangrong [this message]
2016-03-09 7:41 ` Yang Zhang
2016-03-09 7:50 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-03-09 8:00 ` Yang Zhang
2016-03-09 8:05 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-03-09 8:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-09 8:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-09 6:24 ` Yang Zhang
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