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From: Shanker Donthineni <shankerd@codeaurora.org>
To: Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Julien Grall <julien.grall@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Philip Elcan <pelcan@codeaurora.org>,
	Vikram Sethi <vikrams@codeaurora.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xen: arm: zero EL2 pagetable pages before use
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 12:18:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56E6F273.8030701@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56E43DCE.6070409@arm.com>

Hi Julien,


On 03/12/2016 10:03 AM, Julien Grall wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 11/03/2016 20:24, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 11/03/16 13:13, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 11.03.16 at 13:56, <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/03/16 11:29, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10.03.16 at 23:00, <shankerd@codeaurora.org> wrote:
>>>>>> @@ -771,6 +772,7 @@ void __init setup_frametable_mappings(paddr_t ps, paddr_t pe)
>>>>>>       nr_second = frametable_size >> SECOND_SHIFT;
>>>>>>       second_base = alloc_boot_pages(nr_second, 1);
>>>>>>       second = mfn_to_virt(second_base);
>>>>>> +    memset(second, 0, nr_second * PAGE_SIZE);
>>>>>>       for ( i = 0; i < nr_second; i++ )
>>>>>>       {
>>>>>>           pte = mfn_to_xen_entry(second_base + i, WRITEALLOC);
>>>>> Along those lines here - use clear_page(), presumably by moving it
>>>>> into the loop.
>>>> This need only initialise the entries which are not filled by the loop,
>>>> which will only be the rounding size up to the next 2M or 32M boundary.
>>>>
>>>> Most of the content of 'second' is explicitly initialised, so zeroing it
>>>> all first is redundant.
>>> Well, I certainly don't know all the details of how this works on
>>> ARM, but the way I remember the original problem description
>>> (sent a few days ago) the problem was with bogus translations
>>> to be visible transiently. Of course all depends on whether the
>>> page tables that are being modified here are live ones, which
>>> I simply don't know.
>>
>> Looking at the code here, second is hooked into the live pagetables
>> immediately after the loop.  Therefore, bogus translations will only be
>> present for the untouched PTEs which make up the alignment space.
>
> The frame table size is always aligned to 2MB/32MB. However, the frame table may not use all the entries in a level 2 page table (which cover 1GB of memory). Those unused entries will be unknown if we don't clear them.
>
> Keeping them unknown is not a problem as long as nobody is trying to access the underlying virtual address.
>

I don't agree keeping a garbage value in PTE is not a problem. The ARMv8 Architecture
allows to perform speculative data/instruction read accesses from memory (type normal)
as along as its PTE valid bit is set.

CPU prefetch logic might access garbage PTEs and cause system panic if VA-PA translation
happens to be physical address that is not addressable by system BUS.
 

> In the case of setup_frametable_mappings, Xen is still running with a single processor and the frame_table is not access until after create_mappings is called. The function should nuke all the TLBs at the end, so it looks like to me that zeroed the entries will hide the real problem.
>

Not true, zeroed PTE entries fixing the asynchronous aborts and Serror exceptions due to garbage
PTEs.

> Nonetheless, I would invalidate all the entries in the table to avoid polluting the TLBs with bogus entries and get a better crash.
>
> Regards,
>

-- 
Shanker Donthineni
Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. on behalf of Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc.
Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of Code Aurora Forum, a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project


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  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-14 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-10 22:00 [PATCH] xen: arm: zero EL2 pagetable pages before use Shanker Donthineni
2016-03-11 11:29 ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-11 12:56   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-11 13:13     ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-11 13:24       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-03-12 16:03         ` Julien Grall
2016-03-14 17:18           ` Shanker Donthineni [this message]
2016-03-15 17:37             ` Julien Grall
2016-03-12 14:32   ` Julien Grall
2016-03-14  7:37 ` Julien Grall

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