From: Richard Yao <ryao@gentoo.org>
To: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Making an interface for alternative data streams
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:19:17 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56F05745.50204@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56F03945.40208@gentoo.org>
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On 03/21/2016 02:11 PM, Richard Yao wrote:
> I am thinking of implementing Solaris-style alternative data streams in
> the ZFSOnLinux driver via an ioctl and writing a compatibility shim so
> that software written to use O_XATTR can be trivially adapted to use the
> interface.
>
> I sketched out the fine details on github:
>
> https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/issues/4437
>
> I would be much happier if the VFS gave filesystem drivers the ability
> to implement O_XATTR. That would avoid the need to (ab)use an ioctl for
> this and eliminate the risk of using a bit that would be defined to mean
> something else. The former risks permissions checks becoming stale while
> the latter is a situation that I would be happy to avoid.
>
> Since this sort of interface is applicable to NFS too, I wanted to ask
> what various mainline developers think about it before I tried doing an
> initial implementation.
>
Maybe I should clarify that the idea is to allow read/write/list of
extended attributes via read/write/readdir so that those that want
extended attributes that are alternative data streams can have them. I
do not want to see extended attributes and alternative data streams be
different things. Alternative data streams are in the NFSv4
specification, so I thought that the developers of the NFS client driver
would want something like this.
If it went into the VFS, then existing in-tree filesystems could have it
mapped to the existing interface, which would allow it to work
everywhere extended attributes are implemented. If they are not
interested, then I could go ahead with my ioctl idea. I just wanted to
try to implement this in a way everyone who can use it would like so
that we can avoid a XKCD #927 situation in the future:
https://xkcd.com/927/
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-21 20:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-21 18:11 Making an interface for alternative data streams Richard Yao
2016-03-21 18:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-21 18:51 ` Richard Yao
2016-03-21 19:17 ` Richard Yao
2016-03-21 20:19 ` Richard Yao [this message]
2016-03-21 20:40 ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-03-21 22:36 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-21 22:48 ` Cedric Blancher
2016-03-22 0:12 ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-03-22 1:02 ` Richard Yao
2016-03-22 2:21 ` Richard Yao
2016-03-22 16:15 ` Richard Sharpe
2016-03-22 20:08 ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-03-22 20:13 ` Richard Sharpe
2016-03-22 20:32 ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-03-22 21:42 ` Jeremy Allison
2016-03-23 4:13 ` Steve French
2016-03-23 4:19 ` Steve French
2016-03-23 14:45 ` Steve French
2016-03-23 17:01 ` Jeremy Allison
2016-03-23 17:01 ` Jeremy Allison
2016-03-23 17:16 ` Steve French
2016-03-23 15:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-03-22 2:01 ` Richard Yao
2016-03-22 21:29 ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-22 21:52 ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-03-22 22:50 ` Dave Chinner
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