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From: Edward Cree <ecree@solarflare.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
Cc: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Brenden Blanco <bblanco@plumgrid.com>, <davem@davemloft.net>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <tom@herbertland.com>,
	<alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>, <gerlitz@mellanox.com>,
	<john.fastabend@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/5] bpf: add PHYS_DEV prog type for early driver filter
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 16:18:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <570285CE.8060803@solarflare.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1459780420.6473.337.camel@edumazet-glaptop3.roam.corp.google.com>

On 04/04/16 15:33, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-04-04 at 15:07 +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> 
>> Argh... maybe the minimal pseudo/fake SKB is the wrong "signal" to send
>> to users of this API.
>>
>> The hole idea is that an SKB is NOT allocated yet, and not needed at
>> this level.  If we start supporting calling underlying SKB functions,
>> then we will end-up in the same place (performance wise).
> 
> A BPF program can access many skb fields.
> 
> If you plan to support BPF, your fake skb needs to be populated like a
> real one. Looks like some code will be replicated in all drivers that
> want this facility...
> 
> Or accept (document ?) that some BPF instructions are just not there.
> (hash, queue_mapping ...)

If these progs are eventually going to get pushed down into supporting
hardware, many skb things won't make sense at all at that level.  I would
suggest that anything hardware wouldn't reasonably have available should
be "just not there"; I suspect that'll lead you to the right API for early
driver filter as well.  And it probably won't look much like an skb.

-Ed

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-04 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-02  1:21 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add driver bpf hook for early packet drop Brenden Blanco
2016-04-02  1:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] bpf: add PHYS_DEV prog type for early driver filter Brenden Blanco
2016-04-02 16:39   ` Tom Herbert
2016-04-03  7:02     ` Brenden Blanco
2016-04-04 22:07       ` Thomas Graf
2016-04-05  8:19         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-04  8:49   ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-04-04 13:07     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-04 13:36       ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-04-04 14:09         ` Tom Herbert
2016-04-04 15:12           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-04 15:29             ` Brenden Blanco
2016-04-04 16:07               ` John Fastabend
2016-04-04 16:17                 ` Brenden Blanco
2016-04-04 20:00                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-04-04 22:04                     ` Thomas Graf
2016-04-05  2:25                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-04-05  8:11                         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-05  9:29                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-05 22:06                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-04-04 14:33       ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-04 15:18         ` Edward Cree [this message]
2016-04-02  1:21 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] net: add ndo to set bpf prog in adapter rx Brenden Blanco
2016-04-02  1:21 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] rtnl: add option for setting link bpf prog Brenden Blanco
2016-04-02  1:21 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] mlx4: add support for fast rx drop bpf program Brenden Blanco
2016-04-02  2:08   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-02  2:47     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-04-04 14:57       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-04 15:22         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-04 18:50           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-04-05 14:15             ` Or Gerlitz
2016-04-06  4:05               ` Brenden Blanco
2016-04-03  6:15     ` Brenden Blanco
2016-04-05  2:20       ` Brenden Blanco
2016-04-05  2:44         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-05 18:59         ` Eran Ben Elisha
2016-04-02  8:23   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-03  6:11     ` Brenden Blanco
2016-04-04 18:27       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-04-05  6:04         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-02 18:40   ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-03  6:38     ` Brenden Blanco
2016-04-04  7:35       ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-04  9:57         ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-04-04 18:46           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-04-04 21:01             ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-04-05  1:17               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-04-04  8:33   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-04  9:22   ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-04-02  1:21 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] Add sample for adding simple drop program to link Brenden Blanco
2016-04-06 19:48   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-06 20:01     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-06 23:11       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-04-06 20:03     ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-04-02 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add driver bpf hook for early packet drop Tom Herbert
2016-04-03  5:41   ` Brenden Blanco
2016-04-04  7:48     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-04 18:10       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-04-02 18:41 ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-02 22:57   ` Tom Herbert
2016-04-03  2:28     ` Lorenzo Colitti
2016-04-04  7:37       ` Johannes Berg

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