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From: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
	ath10k <ath10k@lists.infradead.org>,
	"codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" <codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: fq_codel_drop vs a udp flood
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 22:08:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57258F41.8040600@candelatech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6QLyx9EaS+ntB0D3duoysu_Z-UYyQfHnRa=pfqPDfWOw@mail.gmail.com>



On 04/30/2016 08:41 PM, Dave Taht wrote:
> There were a few things on this thread that went by, and I wasn't on
> the ath10k list
>
> (https://www.mail-archive.com/ath10k@lists.infradead.org/msg04461.html)
>
> first up, udp flood...
>
>>>> From: ath10k <ath10k-boun...@lists.infradead.org> on behalf of Roman
>>>> Yeryomin <leroi.li...@gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 8, 2016 8:14 PM
>>>> To: ath10k@lists.infradead.org
>>>> Subject: ath10k performance, master branch from 20160407
>>>>
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> I've seen performance patches were commited so I've decided to give it
>>>> a try (using 4.1 kernel and backports).
>>>> The results are quite disappointing: TCP download (client pov) dropped
>>>> from 750Mbps to ~550 and UDP shows completely weird behavour - if
>>>> generating 900Mbps it gives 30Mbps max, if generating 300Mbps it gives
>>>> 250Mbps, before (latest official backports release from January) I was
>>>> able to get 900Mbps.
>>>> Hardware is basically ap152 + qca988x 3x3.
>>>> When running perf top I see that fq_codel_drop eats a lot of cpu.
>>>> Here is the output when running iperf3 UDP test:
>>>>
>>>>      45.78%  [kernel]       [k] fq_codel_drop
>>>>       3.05%  [kernel]       [k] ag71xx_poll
>>>>       2.18%  [kernel]       [k] skb_release_data
>>>>       2.01%  [kernel]       [k] r4k_dma_cache_inv
>
> The udp flood behavior is not "weird".  The test is wrong. It is so filling
> the local queue as to dramatically exceed the bandwidth on the link.

It would be nice if you could provide backpressure so that you could
simply select on the udp socket and use that to know when you can send
more frames??

Any idea how that works with codel?

Thanks,
Ben

-- 
Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Candela Technologies Inc  http://www.candelatech.com

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-05-01  5:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-01  3:41 fq_codel_drop vs a udp flood Dave Taht
2016-05-01  4:46 ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Jonathan Morton
2016-05-01  5:08 ` Ben Greear [this message]
2016-05-01  5:23   ` Dave Taht
2016-05-01 14:47     ` [Make-wifi-fast] " dpreed
2016-05-02 14:03       ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 18:40         ` Dave Taht
2016-05-05 13:55           ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 14:55             ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 19:47         ` David Lang
2016-05-01 17:59 ` [Codel] " Eric Dumazet
2016-05-01 18:20   ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-01 18:46     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-01 19:55       ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02  7:47         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-05-01 20:35       ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-01 20:55         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02 14:18           ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 15:07             ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02 15:43               ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 16:14                 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02 17:08                   ` Dave Taht
2016-05-02 17:44                     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-05 14:32                     ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 14:53                   ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 15:32                     ` Dave Taht
2016-05-05 16:07                       ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 16:59                         ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-05 17:39                           ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 18:16                             ` Dave Taht
2016-05-05 18:33                           ` Dave Taht
2016-05-05 16:12                     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-05 16:25                       ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 16:42                         ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-06 10:55                           ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 19:23                         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-05 19:41                           ` Dave Taht
2016-05-06  8:41                             ` moeller0
2016-05-06 11:33                               ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-05-06 11:46                                 ` moeller0
2016-05-06 13:25                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-06 15:25                                     ` moeller0
2016-05-06 15:58                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-06 16:30                                         ` moeller0
2016-05-06 15:55                                     ` [PATCH net-next] fq_codel: add memory limitation per queue Eric Dumazet
2016-05-09  3:49                                       ` David Miller
2016-05-09  4:14                                       ` Cong Wang
2016-05-09  4:31                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-09  5:07                                           ` Cong Wang
2016-05-09 14:26                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-10  4:34                                               ` Cong Wang
2016-05-10  4:45                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-10  4:57                                                   ` Cong Wang
2016-05-10  5:10                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-16  1:16                                       ` [PATCH net-next] fq_codel: fix memory limitation drift Eric Dumazet
2016-05-17  1:57                                         ` David Miller
2016-05-06  9:42                           ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: [Codel] fq_codel_drop vs a udp flood) Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-05-06  9:42                             ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-05-06 12:47                             ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: [Codel] " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-05-06 12:47                               ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-05-06 18:43                               ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: [Codel] " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-06 18:43                                 ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-06 18:56                                 ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: [Codel] " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-06 18:56                                   ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-06 19:43                                   ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: [Codel] " Dave Taht
2016-05-06 19:43                                     ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: " Dave Taht
2016-05-15 22:34                                     ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: [Codel] " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-15 22:34                                       ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-15 23:07                                       ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: [Codel] " Eric Dumazet
2016-05-15 23:07                                         ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: " Eric Dumazet
2016-05-15 23:27                                         ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: [Codel] " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-15 23:27                                           ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-16  8:12                                       ` [Make-wifi-fast] OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: [Codel] " David Lang
2016-05-16  8:12                                         ` [Make-wifi-fast] OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: " David Lang
2016-05-16  8:26                                         ` [Make-wifi-fast] OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: [Codel] " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-16  8:26                                           ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-16  8:46                                           ` David Lang
2016-05-16  8:46                                             ` [Make-wifi-fast] OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: " David Lang
2016-05-16 10:34                                             ` [OpenWrt-Devel] [Make-wifi-fast] OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: [Codel] " Sebastian Moeller
2016-05-16 10:34                                               ` [OpenWrt-Devel] [Make-wifi-fast] OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: " Sebastian Moeller
2016-05-16  8:14                                       ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: [Codel] " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-16  8:14                                         ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-16 14:23                                         ` [Make-wifi-fast] OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: [Codel] " Eric Dumazet
2016-05-16 14:23                                           ` [Make-wifi-fast] OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: " Eric Dumazet
2016-05-16 16:04                                         ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: [Codel] " Dave Taht
2016-05-16 16:04                                           ` Dave Taht
2016-05-16 19:46                                           ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-16 19:46                                             ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-07  9:57                             ` OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: [Codel] " Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2016-05-15 22:47                               ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-15 22:47                                 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-03  2:26     ` [Codel] fq_codel_drop vs a udp flood Dave Taht
2016-05-03  5:21       ` Dave Taht
2016-05-03 12:39         ` Agarwal, Anil
2016-05-03 12:50           ` Agarwal, Anil
2016-05-03 13:35             ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-03 15:37               ` Agarwal, Anil
2016-05-03 17:37               ` Dave Taht
2016-05-03 17:54                 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-03 18:11                   ` Dave Taht
2016-05-03 13:20       ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2016-05-01 18:26   ` Dave Taht
2016-05-01 22:30     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02 14:09   ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 15:04     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02 15:42       ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 13:47 ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 15:01   ` Eric Dumazet

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