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From: Iwo Mergler <iwo.mergler@netcommwireless.com>
To: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
Cc: <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mtd: nandbiterrs: Support for NAND biterrors test on platforms without raw write
Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 14:09:46 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57300D8A.8040607@netcommwireless.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160508184451.3d90176a@bbrezillon>

Hi Boris,


I have to admit that your NACK surprised me.

My patch removes an unnecessary use of raw write
from the test. It was only there because of my
original implementation, which I now consider
mistaken.

I fully agree with you that raw write should
be implemented, despite the impediments.
Although I have seen at least one NAND controller
that always computed and wrote ECC, with no way
for software to circumvent it.

Could you please elaborate a little why you
don't want a test module to work with incomplete
MTD drivers? Is that supposed to be motivating
driver writers for better implementations? ;-)

Would you accept the patch if I remove the comment
about data reshuffling drivers? It's not required
for the patch and, as you correctly pointed out,
now inaccurate.


Best regards,

Iwo


On 05/09/2016 02:44 AM, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> Hi Iwo,
>
> On Fri, 6 May 2016 10:00:12 +1000
> Iwo Mergler <iwo.mergler@netcommwireless.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>> I'm vaguely aware that there is an ongoing effort to move this
>> stuff to mtd-utils, but I was unable to find a source tree
>> with the work so far.
>>
>> Below is a single-line patch for the kernel tests, feel free
>> to apply to the userspace source as well.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Iwo
>>
>>
>> Support for NAND biterrors test on platforms without raw write
>>
>> While the default test mode relies on raw write (mtd_write_oob) to introduce
>> bit errors into a page, the rewrite test mode doesn't need it.
>>
>> Some drivers use eldritch data/ECC arrangements in a NAND page and reshuffle
>> things on-the-fly, to present a normal page view to the kernel. Typically,
>> raw write / read is unsupported on such platforms. Examples are Freescale
>> MXS and Qualcomm MDM9 and probably many others.
> Sorry, but I think such platforms should unshuffle the data/ECC
> sections to expose a standard in-band/out-of-band view to the upper
> layer.
>
> This is completely doable since ->read_page_raw()/->write_page_raw()
> can be overloaded (see the GPMI implementation or the default
> ECC_HW_SYNDROME raw implementation if you need examples).
>
> So, it's a NACK on my side.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Boris
>
>
>> Changed the overwrite test to use normal writes.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Iwo Mergler <Iwo.Mergler@netcommwireless.com>
>> ---
>>    drivers/mtd/tests/nandbiterrs.c | 2 +-
>>    1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/mtd/tests/nandbiterrs.c
>> b/drivers/mtd/tests/nandbiterrs.c
>> index 09a4cca..f26dec8 100644
>> --- a/drivers/mtd/tests/nandbiterrs.c
>> +++ b/drivers/mtd/tests/nandbiterrs.c
>> @@ -290,7 +290,7 @@ static int overwrite_test(void)
>>
>>        while (opno < max_overwrite) {
>>
>> -        err = rewrite_page(0);
>> +        err = write_page(0);
>>            if (err)
>>                break;
>>
>
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-05-09  4:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-06  0:00 [PATCH] mtd: nandbiterrs: Support for NAND biterrors test on platforms without raw write Iwo Mergler
2016-05-08 16:44 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-05-08 16:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2016-05-09  4:09   ` Iwo Mergler [this message]
2016-05-10  8:48     ` Boris Brezillon
2016-05-11  6:54       ` Iwo Mergler
2016-05-11  6:54       ` Iwo Mergler
2016-06-20 11:48         ` Boris Brezillon

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