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From: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Stefan Weil <sw@weilnetz.de>, Leon Alrae <leon.alrae@imgtec.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] target-mips: fix call to memset in soft reset code
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 10:16:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57343BCC.1000208@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160512100650.3dcafe3a.cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>

On 05/12/2016 10:06 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Thu, 12 May 2016 09:40:21 +0200
> Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
>> Maybe a topic for this years QEMU summit could be to talk about
>> release process and release criterias.
> 
> +1 to that.
> 
>> We could 
>> a: allow more patches , e.g. I thing that this patch would be have 
>> been taken in the Linux kernel a day before the release, see for 
>> example what is applied 4 days before a release as network fixes:
>> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=4d8bbbff1227bbb27fdb02b6db17f080c06eedad
>> 22 files changed, 258 insertions, 86 deletions
> 
> Personally, I would probably go for something between applying this
> patch and that networking pull :)
> 
>> b: as we are strict and only apply hand selected patches, regressions are
>> very unlikely, so we could release sooner. For example the CVE fixes could 
>> have just been taken and rc5 being released as final. (which we did anyway
>> but 3 days later)
>>
>> c: we consider everything fine and keep the process
>>
>> d: better ideas
> 
> One thing I've noticed is that softfreeze/early hardfreeze qemus often
> seem more unstable than versions earlier in the development cycle -
> probably because people panic and rush to get code in for the release.
> I don't know if stricter rules/enforcement of what is supposed to go in
> during softfreeze/hardfreeze would help here.

Yes, there are some problems here. But I fully agree with Peter.
We really do need more infrastructure and people to
- maintain stable release much more often and for more than one release
  (that would allow to be less strict before a release)
- have something like qemu-next
- have something like kbuild test robot (aka 0-Day)
- have releases more often (to reduce the pressure to rush in)

Christian

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-12  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-09 16:44 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] target-mips: fix call to memset in soft reset code Aurelien Jarno
2016-05-09 17:53 ` Stefan Weil
2016-05-09 17:55   ` Peter Maydell
2016-05-09 17:57     ` Peter Maydell
2016-05-11 19:28       ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-05-11 22:41         ` Peter Maydell
2016-05-12  7:40           ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-05-12  8:04             ` Peter Maydell
2016-05-12  8:06             ` Cornelia Huck
2016-05-12  8:16               ` Christian Borntraeger [this message]
2016-05-12 11:45 ` Leon Alrae

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