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From: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Chen <hzpeterchen@gmail.com>
Cc: felipe.balbi@linux.intel.com,
	Mathias Nyman <mathias.nyman@intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Roger Quadros <rogerq@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 2/7] usb: mux: add generic code for dual role port mux
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 14:55:56 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5753CCFC.2060504@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160604022838.GA26936@shlinux2>

Hi Peter,

On 06/04/2016 10:28 AM, Peter Chen wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 04, 2016 at 12:06:06AM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
>>> from my point,it is a dual-role switch
>>> driver too,
>> No, it's not a dual-role switch driver, but a driver for USB port multiplexing.
>>
>> One example of port multiplexing can be found in several Intel SOC and PCH
>> chips, inside of which, there are two independent USB controllers: host and
>> device. They might share a single port and this port could be configured to
>> route the line to one of these two controllers. This patch introduced a generic
>> framework for port mux drivers. It aids the drivers to handle port mux by
>> providing interfaces to 1) register/unregister a mux device; 2) lookup the
>> mux device; and 3) switch the port.
>>
> For this case, I can't see it is different with dual-role switch.

Port mux is part of dual role switch, but not the whole thing.

Dual role switch includes at least below things:
 - ID or type-C event detection
 - port mux
 - VBUS management
 - start/stop host/device controllers

An OTG/Dual-role framework can be used to keep all these
things run together with an internal state machine. But it's
not duplicated with a generic framework for port mux and
the port mux drivers.

> Your
> case is just like Renesas case, which uses two different drivers between
> peripheral and host[1].

In my case, the port mux devices are physical devices and they
can be controlled through GPIO pins or device registers. They
are independent of both peripheral and host controllers.


>> Port multiplexing isn't equal to USB dual role. There are other cases in today's
>> systems. In several Intel PCH chips, there equips two USB host controllers: ehci
>> and xhci. The xhci USB2 ports are multiplexed with ehci. This guarantees all
>> USB ports work even running an old version of OS which lacks of USB3 support.
>> In theory, we can create a driver for the port mux and switch the ports between
>> xhci and ehci, but that's silly, isn't it? Why not always USB3?:-)
>>
>> Another case is xHCI debug capability. The xHCI host controller might equip
>> a unit for system debugging (refer to 7.6 of xHCI spec). The debugging unit is
>> independent of xhci host controller. But it shares its port with xhci. Software
>> could switch the port between xhci and the debugging unit through the registers
>> defined in xHCI spec.
>>
> Yes, above two are different with dual role switch. But in your code and
> Kconfig, it seems this framework is dedicated for dual-role. Eg:
>
> +menuconfig USB_PORTMUX
> +       bool "USB dual role port MUX support"
> +       help
> +         Generic USB dual role port mux support.

Above two cases are examples for port multiplexing, but I don't think we
need drivers for them. At this moment, this framework is only for dual
role port mux devices.

>
> I think a general dual role port mux is necessary, it can be used to
> manage different dual-role switch method, eg

Yes, I agree.

> - ID pin
> - External connector through GPIO
> - SoC register
> - sysfs
> - type-C events

ID pin and type-C events are the *reasons* which trigger the port
mux switch. Currently, on our platforms, gpio, registers and sysfs
are methods to control the mux.

>
> But this code is better co-work with OTG/Dual-role framework, we'd
> better have only interface that the user can know which role for the
> current port.

OTG/Dual-role framework and portmux framework are not overlapped.
The sysfs interface shouldn't be overlapped as well. Say, I have a port
mux device and I have a driver for it. I am able to read the status of my
port mux device through sysfs. This is not part of OTG/Dual-role as far
as I can see.

Best regards,
Lu Baolu

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-05  6:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-02  1:37 [PATCH v10 0/7] usb: add support for Intel dual role port mux Lu Baolu
2016-06-02  1:37 ` [PATCH v10 1/7] regulator: fixed: add support for ACPI interface Lu Baolu
2016-06-08  4:42   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-06-08 13:43     ` Mark Brown
2016-06-08 15:46       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-06-09  2:43     ` Lu Baolu
2016-06-02  1:37 ` [PATCH v10 2/7] usb: mux: add generic code for dual role port mux Lu Baolu
2016-06-03  7:41   ` Peter Chen
2016-06-03  8:16     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-06-03  9:20       ` Peter Chen
2016-06-03 16:06     ` Lu Baolu
2016-06-04  2:28       ` Peter Chen
2016-06-05  6:55         ` Lu Baolu [this message]
2016-06-05  8:33           ` Jun Li
2016-06-05  8:46             ` Lu Baolu
2016-06-06  1:08               ` Jun Li
2016-06-06  2:30                 ` Lu Baolu
2016-06-06  2:05               ` Peter Chen
2016-06-06  2:45                 ` Lu Baolu
2016-06-06  6:48                   ` Peter Chen
2016-06-06  1:25           ` Peter Chen
2016-06-06  3:04             ` Lu Baolu
2016-06-06  7:02               ` Roger Quadros
2016-06-07  3:03                 ` Jun Li
2016-06-07  6:27                   ` Lu Baolu
2016-06-07  6:34                     ` Jun Li
2016-06-07  9:27                       ` Lu Baolu
2016-06-07 12:49                         ` Roger Quadros
2016-06-07  9:53                   ` Lu Baolu
2016-06-07 12:58                     ` Roger Quadros
2016-06-07 13:04                       ` Felipe Balbi
2016-06-07 14:02                         ` Roger Quadros
2016-06-07 15:05                           ` Felipe Balbi
2016-06-08  3:04                             ` Jun Li
     [not found]                               ` <5757A8CB.90402@linux.intel.com>
2016-06-08  6:20                                 ` Jun Li
2016-06-08  6:25                             ` Peter Chen
2016-06-08  7:58                             ` Roger Quadros
2016-06-06  7:02               ` Peter Chen
2016-06-06  7:35                 ` Lu Baolu
2016-06-02  1:37 ` [PATCH v10 3/7] usb: mux: add driver for Intel gpio controlled " Lu Baolu
2016-06-02  1:37 ` [PATCH v10 4/7] usb: mux: add driver for Intel drcfg " Lu Baolu
2016-06-02  1:37 ` [PATCH v10 5/7] mfd: intel_vuport: Add Intel virtual USB port MFD Driver Lu Baolu
2016-06-02  1:37 ` [PATCH v10 6/7] usb: pci-quirks: add Intel USB drcfg mux device Lu Baolu
2016-06-08  4:45   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-06-08  7:56     ` Lu Baolu
2016-06-08 15:45       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-06-09  2:39         ` Lu Baolu
2016-06-16  0:27           ` Lu Baolu
2016-06-18  0:58             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-06-19  9:52               ` Lu Baolu
2016-06-02  1:37 ` [PATCH v10 7/7] MAINTAINERS: add maintainer entry for Intel USB dual role mux drivers Lu Baolu

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