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From: Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com>
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	aarcange@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] x86: Allow physical address bits to be set
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 19:13:17 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5766C49D.2000102@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2cebe3e1-4d22-ef3b-d1d7-734f1b2371df@redhat.com>

On 06/17/2016 07:07 PM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 06/17/16 11:52, Igor Mammedov wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 11:17:54 +0200
>> Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fr, 2016-06-17 at 10:43 +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 17/06/2016 10:15, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
>>>>> Larger is a problem if the guest tries to map something to a high
>>>>> address that's not addressable.
>>>>
>>>> Right.  It's not a problem for most emulated PCI devices (it would be a
>>>> problem for those that have large RAM BARs, but even our emulated video
>>>> cards do not have 64-bit RAM BARs, I think;
>>>
>>> qxl can be configured to have one, try "-device
>>> qxl-vga,vram64_size_mb=1024"
>>>
>>>>>     2) While we have maxmem settings to tell us the top of VM RAM, do
>>>>>        we have anything that tells us the top of IO space? What happens
>>>>>        when we hotplug a PCI card?
>>>
>>>> (arch/x86/kernel/setup.c) but I agree that (2) is a blocker.
>>>
>>> seabios maps stuff right above ram (possibly with a hole due to
>>> alignment requirements).
>>>
>>> ovmf maps stuff into a 32G-aligned 32G hole.  Which lands at 32G and
>>> therefore is addressable with 36 bits, unless you have tons of ram (>
>>> 30G) assigned to your guest.  A physical host machine where you can plug
>>> in enough ram for such a configuration likely has more than 36 physical
>>> address lines too ...
>>>
>>> qemu checks where the firmware mapped 64bit bars, then adds those ranges
>>> to the root bus pci resources in the acpi tables (see /proc/iomem).
>>>
>>>> You don't know how the guest will assign PCI BAR addresses, and as you
>>>> said there's hotplug too.
>>>
>>> Not sure whenever qemu adds some extra space for hotplug to the 64bit
>>> hole and if so how it calculates the size then.  But the guest os should
>>> stick to those ranges when configuring hotplugged devices.
>> currently firmware would assign 64-bit BARs after reserved-memory-end
>> (not sure about ovmf though)
>
> OVMF does the same as well. It makes sure that the 64-bit PCI MMIO
> aperture is located above "etc/reserved-memory-end", if the latter exists.
>
>> but QEMU on ACPI side will add 64-bit _CRS only
>> for firmware mapped devices (i.e. no space reserved for hotplug).
>> And is I recall correctly ovmf won't map BARs if it doesn't have
>> a driver for it
>
> Yes, that's correct, generally for all UEFI firmware.
>
> More precisely, BARs will be allocated and programmed, but the MMIO
> space decoding bit will not be set (permanently) in the device's command
> register, if there is no matching driver in the firmware (or in the
> device's own oprom).
>
>> so ACPI tables won't even have a space for not mapped
>> 64-bit BARs.
>
> This used to be true, but that's not the case since
> <https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/commit/8f35eb92c419>.
>
> Namely, specifically for conforming to QEMU's ACPI generator, OVMF
> *temporarily* enables, as a platform quirk, all PCI devices present in
> the system, before triggering QEMU to generate the ACPI payload.
>
> Thus, nowadays 64-bit BARs work fine with OVMF, both for virtio-modern
> devices, and assigned physical devices. (This is very easy to test,
> because, unlike SeaBIOS, the edk2 stuff built into OVMF prefers to
> allocate 64-bit BARs outside of the 32-bit address space.)
>
> Devices behind PXBs are a different story, but Marcel's been looking
> into that, see <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1323976>.
>
>> There was another attempt to reserve more space in _CRS
>>    https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2016-05/msg00090.html
>
> That's actually Marcel's first own patch set for addressing RHBZ#1323976
> that I mentioned above (see it linked in
> <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1323976#c2>).
>
> It might have wider effects, but it is entirely motivated, to my
> knowledge, by PXB. If you don't have extra root bridges, and/or you plug
> all your devices with 64-bit MMIO BARs into the "main" (default) root
> bridge, then (I believe) that patch set is not supposed to make any
> difference. (I could be wrong, it's been a while since I looked at
> Marcel's work!)
>

Patch 3 and 4 indeed are for PXB only. but patch 'pci: reserve 64 bit MMIO range for PCI hotplug'
(see https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2016-05/msg00091.html) tries
to reserve [above_4g_mem_size, max_addressable_cpu_bits] range for PCI hotplug.

The implementation is not good enough because the number of addressable bits is hard-coded.
However, we have now David's wrapper I can use.


Thanks,
Marcel







> Thanks
> Laszlo
>

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-19 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-16 17:12 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] x86: Physical address limit patches Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-16 17:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] BIT_RANGE convenience macro Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-16 17:23   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-16 17:24     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-16 18:01   ` Peter Maydell
2016-06-16 18:05     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-20 14:11     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-20 14:17       ` Peter Maydell
2016-06-16 17:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] x86: Mask mtrr mask based on CPU physical address limits Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-16 19:59   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17  8:23     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-17 12:13     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-16 17:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] x86: fill high bits of mtrr mask Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-16 20:14   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17  7:47     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 12:46       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 13:01         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 13:41           ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 14:25             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 15:27               ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 15:29                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 15:35                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 13:51           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-17 14:19             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17  8:53     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-16 17:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] x86: Allow physical address bits to be set Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-16 17:26   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-16 18:09     ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-16 20:24   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17  8:15     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-17  8:43       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17  9:17         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-06-17  9:52           ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-17 11:20             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-06-17 16:20               ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-06-17 16:07             ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-06-19 16:13               ` Marcel Apfelbaum [this message]
2016-06-20 10:42                 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-20 11:13                   ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-06-17  9:37       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-17  9:54         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 13:18       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 13:38         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 15:19           ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 15:28             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 15:49               ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-21 19:44                 ` [Qemu-devel] Default for phys-addr-bits? (was Re: [PATCH 4/5] x86: Allow physical address bits to be set) Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-22 12:41                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-22 14:24                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-06-22 14:33                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-22 14:44                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-06-22 14:48                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-22 15:02                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-06-22 22:44                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-22 23:23                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-06-22 23:45                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-23  8:40                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-06-23 16:38                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-24  5:55                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-06-24 23:12                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-29 16:42                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-30  6:10                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-06-30 10:59                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-30 16:14                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-06-30 17:12                                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-07-01 19:03                                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-22 22:40                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-22 23:15                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-06-19  3:36           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] x86: Allow physical address bits to be set Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-20  7:04             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 14:24         ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-06-16 17:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] x86: Set physical address bits based on host Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-17  7:25   ` Igor Mammedov

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