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From: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>, David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	AndrewCooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] hvmctl hypercall
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 14:51:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <576D3ACF.7000607@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <576D53D502000078000F88F3@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>

On 24/06/16 14:37, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 24.06.16 at 15:27, <david.vrabel@citrix.com> wrote:
>> On 24/06/16 11:35, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 24.06.16 at 12:29, <david.vrabel@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>> On 24/06/16 11:21, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>> A long while back separating out all control kind operations (intended
>>>>> for use by only the control domain or device model) from the currect
>>>>> hvmop hypercall has been discussed. This series aims at finally making
>>>>> this reality (at once allowing to streamline the associated XSM checking).
>>>>>
>>>>> 01: public / x86: introduce hvmctl hypercall
>>>>> 02: convert HVMOP_set_pci_intx_level
>>>>> 03: convert HVMOP_set_isa_irq_level
>>>>> 04: convert HVMOP_set_pci_link_route
>>>>> 05: convert HVMOP_track_dirty_vram
>>>>> 06: convert HVMOP_modified_memory
>>>>> 07: convert HVMOP_set_mem_type
>>>>> 08: convert HVMOP_inject_trap
>>>>> 09: convert HVMOP_inject_msi
>>>>> 10: convert HVMOP_*ioreq_server*
>>>>> 11: x86/HVM: serialize trap injecting producer and consumer
>>>>
>>>> Is hvmctl going to have a stable ABI?
>>>
>>> No, that's why it is being versioned - just like domctl and sysctl.
>>
>> Isn't this a backward step?
> 
> No. This series merely splits off the unstable portion of HVMOP to a
> separate hypercall.

It's not a forward step either.

>>  Don't we want to be able to (for example)
>> produce qemu stubdom images that aren't tied to specific Xen versions?
> 
> Yes. With libxc sitting in between this is no problem, at least if
> carefully used (see patches 2, 3, and 4  for examples where full
> conversion could not be done because of parts of the unstable
> interface having leaked beyond libxc).

There has been discussion in the past about creating a stable hypervisor
ABI for use by device models (and thus a userspace library with a stable
ABI and API).

Why is this conversion not working towards this?

David

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-24 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-24 10:21 [PATCH v2 00/11] hvmctl hypercall Jan Beulich
2016-06-24 10:28 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] public / x86: introduce " Jan Beulich
2016-07-01 16:18   ` Ping: " Jan Beulich
2016-07-01 16:42     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-07-04  7:31       ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 17:54   ` Daniel De Graaf
2016-08-03 11:06   ` George Dunlap
2016-08-03 11:52     ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-24 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] " David Vrabel
2016-06-24 10:35   ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-24 13:27     ` David Vrabel
2016-06-24 13:37       ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-24 13:51         ` David Vrabel [this message]
2016-06-24 14:25           ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-24 14:28             ` George Dunlap
2016-06-24 15:02             ` David Vrabel
2016-06-24 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] hvmctl: convert HVMOP_set_pci_intx_level Jan Beulich
2016-06-24 10:29 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] hvmctl: convert HVMOP_set_isa_irq_level Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 17:56   ` Daniel De Graaf
2016-06-24 10:30 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] hvmctl: convert HVMOP_set_pci_link_route Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 17:56   ` Daniel De Graaf
2016-06-24 10:31 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] hvmctl: convert HVMOP_track_dirty_vram Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 17:57   ` Daniel De Graaf
2016-06-24 10:31 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] hvmctl: convert HVMOP_modified_memory Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 17:58   ` Daniel De Graaf
2016-06-24 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] hvmctl: convert HVMOP_set_mem_type Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 17:58   ` Daniel De Graaf
2016-06-24 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] hvmctl: convert HVMOP_inject_trap Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 17:59   ` Daniel De Graaf
2016-06-24 10:33 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] hvmctl: convert HVMOP_inject_msi Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 17:59   ` Daniel De Graaf
2016-06-24 10:34 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] hvmctl: convert HVMOP_*ioreq_server* Jan Beulich
2016-07-05 18:00   ` Daniel De Graaf
2016-06-24 10:34 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] x86/HVM: serialize trap injecting producer and consumer Jan Beulich

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