From: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, peter.maydell@linaro.org, mst@redhat.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mreitz@redhat.com, kraxel@redhat.com,
dgilbert@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/15] qapi: use mmap for QmpInputVisitor
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 13:36:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <577A4A56.10901@kamp.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vb0llkic.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>
Am 04.07.2016 um 13:18 schrieb Markus Armbruster:
> Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> writes:
>
>> On 30/06/2016 16:12, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>> Implementing a stack as "big enough" array can be wasteful.
>>> Implementing it as dynamically allocated list is differently wasteful.
>>> Saving several mallocs and frees can be worth "wasting" a few pages of
>>> memory for a short time.
>> Most usage of QmpInputVisitor at startup comes from
>> object_property_set_qobject, which only sets small scalar objects. The
>> stack is entirely unused in this case.
> A quick test run shows ~300 qmp_input_visitor_new() calls during
> startup, with at most two alive at the same time.
>
> Why would it matter whether these are in the order of 150 bytes or 25000
> bytes each? How could this materially impact RSS?
>
> There's one type of waste here that I understand: we zero the whole
> QmpInputVisitor on allocation.
>
> I'm not opposed to changing how the stack is implemented, I just want to
> first understand why the current implmementation behaves badly (assuming
> it does).
The history behind this is that I observed that the RSS usage of Qemu
has dramatically increased between Qemu 2.2.0 and 2.5.0. I observed
that really clearly since we use hugetblfs everywhere and so I can clearly
distinct Qemu memory from VM memory. After having bisected one increase
in RSS usage to the introduction of RCU the theory came up that the memory
gets fragmented because alloc and dealloc patterns have changed. So I started
to trace all malloc calls above 4kB and started to use mmap everywhere where it
was possible.
To give you an idea of the diffence I observed I'd like to give an example.
I have a blade with 22 vServers running on it. Including OS the allocated
memory with current master is approx. at 6.5GB. With current master
and the following environment set:
MALLOC_MMAP_THRESHOLD_=32768
the allocated memory stays at approx. 2GB.
Peter
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-04 11:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-06-28 9:01 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/15] optimize Qemu RSS usage Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/15] coroutine-ucontext: mmap stack memory Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:02 ` Peter Maydell
2016-06-28 10:21 ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 11:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/15] coroutine-ucontext: add a switch to monitor maximum stack size Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/15] coroutine-ucontext: reduce stack size to 64kB Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 10:57 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-28 11:17 ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 11:35 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-28 12:09 ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 14:20 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-30 6:34 ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 11:13 ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 11:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/15] coroutine: add a knob to disable the shared release pool Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 10:47 ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/15] util: add a helper to mmap private anonymous memory Peter Lieven
2016-10-16 2:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-18 13:50 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-28 9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/15] exec: use mmap for subpages Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/15] qapi: use mmap for QmpInputVisitor Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 9:29 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-28 9:39 ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:10 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-06-28 10:17 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-28 10:21 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-06-28 14:10 ` Eric Blake
2016-06-28 11:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 14:14 ` Eric Blake
2016-06-30 14:12 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-07-04 9:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-04 11:18 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-07-04 11:36 ` Peter Lieven [this message]
2016-07-04 11:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/15] virtio: use mmap for VirtQueue Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/15] loader: use mmap for ROMs Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 11:26 ` Peter Lieven
2016-07-04 7:30 ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/15] vmware_svga: use mmap for scratch pad Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/15] qom: use mmap for bigger Objects Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-06-28 10:10 ` Peter Maydell
2016-06-28 10:19 ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 10:49 ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-30 14:15 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-06-28 9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/15] util: add a function to realloc mmapped memory Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/15] exec: use mmap for PhysPageMap->nodes Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 10:48 ` Peter Lieven
2016-07-11 9:31 ` Peter Lieven
2016-07-11 9:44 ` Peter Lieven
2016-07-11 10:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-12 14:34 ` Peter Lieven
2016-07-13 10:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-14 14:47 ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/15] vnc-tight: make the encoding palette static Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 11:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 11:18 ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/15] vnc: use mmap for VncState Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 11:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/15] optimize Qemu RSS usage Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 12:14 ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 12:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 12:33 ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 12:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 12:56 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-28 14:43 ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 14:52 ` Peter Lieven
2016-10-12 21:18 ` Michael R. Hines
2016-10-18 10:47 ` Peter Lieven
2016-10-19 17:40 ` Michael R. Hines
2016-10-31 22:00 ` Michael R. Hines
2016-11-01 22:02 ` Michael R. Hines
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