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From: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Compiler shopping list
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 19:05:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57925242.3000207@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1469203184.120686.212.camel@infradead.org>

On 07/22/2016 05:59 PM, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-07-22 at 17:52 +0200, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
>> On 07/22/2016 12:41 PM, David Howells wrote:
>>> Are there additional things we can get the compiler to do for us?  Some
>>> things I've seen brought up:
>>>
>>>  (1) Additional __atomic_*() ops could be useful.  Suggestions I've heard
>>>      include direct LL/SC support - though the compiler people don't seem so
>>>      keen on that.
>>>
>>>  (2) -mmodel=kernel flag so that the compiler can optimise better for the
>>>      kernel memory model.
>>
>> Some years ago (actually many) Linus proposed to have an endianess attribute to data
>> types, so that the compiler can do the bswap automatically. For some reason this
>> was never implemented, but this might be a good idea anyway.
>>
>> e.g. 
>>
>> unsigned long x[10] __attribute__(("bigendian"));
> 
> I'm not sure Linus proposed that. I certainly did, many times.

Yes, I know at least 3 people suggesting that and thinking this is useful
( Can you beat Linus' 2001 https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2001-12/msg00932.html? ;-) )


> 
> With the work I put in to make use of __builtin_bswapXX() we do have a
> *certain* amount of the functionality that full endianness attribution
> would give us — the compiler can see and optimise certain
> load/mask/save operations, and can use movbe and equivalent
> instructions.
> 
> But a full implementation that let us just do assignment without
> jumping through the hoops might still be nice.

Absolutely.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-22 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-22 10:41 [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Compiler shopping list David Howells
2016-07-22 15:52 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-07-22 15:59   ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-22 17:05     ` Christian Borntraeger [this message]
2016-07-22 17:17       ` James Bottomley
2016-07-22 17:33         ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-29  1:16       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-23 20:35     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-07-23 23:09       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-07-25 18:49 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-29  1:32 ` Steven Rostedt

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