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From: "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <enrico.weigelt@gr13.net>
To: Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>
Cc: dri devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: hardware accelerated bitblt using dma engine
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 05:33:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57A16603.3090302@gr13.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF6AEGsFvLZRDociN3XFqjSSsyM07iN7WjTJBJU2n5KQS9+=NQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 03.08.2016 01:12, Rob Clark wrote:

Hi,

>> Well, if it already does buffer allocation and mapping (which might
>> also involve copying around phyisical buffers), why not also add
>> copy-between-buffers ?
> 
> except "dumb" buffers exist *only* for CPU rendered content, you
> cannot assume that a gpu can accelerate anything with them.

Exactly my usecase: having no (usable) GPU at all, but a an sdma
controller - or even better: an IPU - which can do the bitblt.
(maybe even w/ colorspace conversion, rotation, etc)

There might be GPUs which can also do that - and in that case it
should be done by the GPU.

> They basically exist just for simple splash screens and fbcon

Or when you dont have an (usable) GPU at all ?

> there is a reason that there is no generic gpu cmd submission ioctl.
> It is too much hw specific, 

Sure, but I'm not going to use an GPU at all, but different hw.

> and anyway it is only used by device
> specific userspace (ie. gl driver and/or xorg ddx)

Actually, on my targets I neither have gl nor xorg, and I'd like to
keep userland generic. I'd hate to hate to have lots of hw-specific
cairo-backends when I'll have to touch the kernel anyways, in order
to use smda or ipu.


By the way: while hacking a bit on mesa (backporting to Trusty),
I came around separate hw-specific calls for retrieving the video
memory size. Seems to be a really common thing ... is there any
hw that does not have such thing ? Couldn't that be an generic
ioctl() ?

I somewhat got the strange feeling that anything that goes beyond
very trivial dumb framebuffer has hw-specific ioctl's ;-o


--mtx

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-03  3:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-02 13:21 RFC: hardware accelerated bitblt using dma engine Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2016-08-02 14:04 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-02 21:43   ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2016-08-02 23:12     ` Rob Clark
2016-08-03  3:33       ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult [this message]
2016-08-03  3:47         ` Dave Airlie
2016-08-03  4:39           ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2016-08-03  9:24 ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-08-03 11:47   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-03 23:32     ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2016-08-04  7:50       ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-04 10:09         ` Daniel Stone
2016-08-04 23:16         ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2016-08-05  4:37           ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2016-08-05  7:49             ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-05  7:47           ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-03 23:19   ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult

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