From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by yocto-www.yoctoproject.org (Postfix, from userid 118) id 4C813E00C09; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 13:53:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on yocto-www.yoctoproject.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-HAM-Report: * -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low * trust * [209.85.220.66 listed in list.dnswl.org] * 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider * (akuster808[at]gmail.com) * -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's * domain * 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily * valid * -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature Received: from mail-pa0-f66.google.com (mail-pa0-f66.google.com [209.85.220.66]) by yocto-www.yoctoproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97CB8E00AA2 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 13:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f66.google.com with SMTP id cf3so1493387pad.2 for ; Tue, 09 Aug 2016 13:53:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=R4R0qicVzacty9gMseteFVEJ3wy3cXVHCzp3lA6PIyY=; b=pydutQ2WyR3Y3U7HiKTfGSNO65m8KlEDwN0hBz+VMf9OzxnMwX7+RERRLjDo9wriUw 4YWmWij8cuf4GDLrU8RogOy7qOcIK8yvyFi3LwlbEYxWeHx9/Z0dRh3Qugo9MtMQyx/E TWcqpG3D5ZhKDO7uYVu5pHbNW1gg5LeXH57XkINXe/v3fdj6JUHy5Be4+ny1s//Y+yYy ric/f5CseReVbnp/TJ25Mfrv1pV2CzOYtR9rHoGoidUGhopWfkkdRD5mNj1qudmbpozF RELze0U+9gKUe4kIXeH127Venh+Y1MpTJPzq0mCTYK4yIk2AU1yTTnZHsiIGVc1ZrZnm A+og== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=R4R0qicVzacty9gMseteFVEJ3wy3cXVHCzp3lA6PIyY=; b=XaGYL2zUSqulEsgxiv7o7U7PFnbIB+bB6cy0M30FHKEwTWQUC3e7wGrtkX+eak2J6I 0MU2O9bxyne+hKszVsFVxlr7ty0adtKMz0bCMaLNtJlgBL4qhM4VINfu+ON5hVNJ7XxL muGzp0GFaj+HON+BZKITRt2JIkBqiI6ct63iF4ibxyCBYXbmsw2KXD+0L+D3zCjhaeH6 uPv06kGPGdUzJgqImwuyt+PTFwuuKjI7kIhli6Mkqyg9Y97bMjjvyxTkcLmmMbTDiUf/ sg3RHECNlcwAlFmKcCU9EMBYiizy2zjA+zqZX7QWdPC2EHGxVualKrsJA6VSeiprQ0mq k/yg== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoousMfKW7HN1XozhNbKRnvrNwv5FGElc4563iPXbFISvf8teDxtdwkQxnhKqTGKHzoA== X-Received: by 10.66.86.170 with SMTP id q10mr574334paz.105.1470776025196; Tue, 09 Aug 2016 13:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.43.100.29] ([50.233.148.156]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id fe8sm58350390pad.2.2016.08.09.13.53.43 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Aug 2016 13:53:44 -0700 (PDT) To: Khem Raj References: <1470151429.3175.189.camel@linux.intel.com> <5598b740-e529-52a3-91e0-e4b34d2bde01@balister.org> <32f35f59-c150-838f-4a53-d7dab0648252@gmail.com> <34036CC4-991B-4ED1-AB67-3F54E0C610B9@gmail.com> From: akuster808 Message-ID: <57AA42D6.4000606@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 13:53:42 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <34036CC4-991B-4ED1-AB67-3F54E0C610B9@gmail.com> Cc: "yocto@yoctoproject.org" Subject: Re: Minutes: Yocto Project Technical Team Meeting - Tuesday, June 7, 2016 8:00 AM US Pacific Time X-BeenThere: yocto@yoctoproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of all things Yocto Project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 20:53:46 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 08/09/2016 12:36 PM, Khem Raj wrote: > >> On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:17 AM, akuster808 wrote: >> >> On 8/3/16 6:19 AM, Philip Balister wrote: >>> >>> On 08/02/2016 11:23 AM, Jolley, Stephen K wrote: >>>> Attendees: Saul, David Wolfe, Joshua, Belen, Ross, Mark, Bill >>>> >>> .... >>> >>>> Poky - LTS/LTM Branch >>>> - Community Driven >>>> - 2 Years >>>> - Companies continue to push on older branches that they are >>>> interested in. >>>> - Most patches would be in Oe-Core meta-data >>> This kind of jumped out at me. Can anyone explain why the Yocto Project >>> needs an LTS version of the reference distribution? >> >> I am glad you asked. >> >> In order for a Yocto Member to be Yocto Compatible, any changes made to >> Bitbake or OE-core have to be submitted to the mailing list. If I have >> to submit changes then is makes sense that there be a central place like >> a repo where these changes can live. We have this for the first year. >> MontaVista and I am sure other Member's support products beyond the >> first year. It seems natural to have a process in place to continue the >> behavior and work Yocto Members are required to perform to maintain >> Yocto compatibility. Or are you saying Yocto Compatible is only good for >> 1 year? > > Dont we accept patches indefinitely as long as they keep coming? Are far as I know we do. > so in theory every branch is LTS for someone if one cares enough > about compatibility with compliance programs. Only if patches make it into a stable branch will they count, it makes it more official. It is the overhead placed upon Richard and his minions to take those patches and check them into the appropriate stable branches. This drops off dramatically once a stable branch transitions to EOL. However, LTS does provide > a cushion for decision makers, practically, I see we are doing it > ever since. > >> >> It not so much having an LTS Poky as much as having LTS branches for OE >> core and bitbake. This means Poky would not have to be kept updated nor >> would the Yocto Project need to build or QA the LTS branches. >> >> As I see it, an LTS branch would only exist if there is a need and is >> supported by the ones who desire the LTS branch. I am sure there will >> be some prerequisites in doing this. I don't see this as a bad thing >> for the community or the Project. >> >> regards, >> Armin >> >> >> >>> >>> Philip >>> >>> >>>> * Team Sharing - 10 min >>>> RP has branch with multi-config in parallel >>>> - fixes various other tools >>>> - Distributed builds in 2.2 is unlikely due to resource constraits >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Sau! >>>> >> >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> yocto mailing list >> yocto@yoctoproject.org >> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto >