From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hpe.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
Jiang Liu <jiang.liu@linux.intel.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
Scott J Norton <scott.norton@hpe.com>,
Douglas Hatch <doug.hatch@hpe.com>,
Randy Wright <rwright@hpe.com>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH v4] x86/hpet: Reduce HPET counter read contention
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:31:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <57AD18D1.1050107@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57AD0898.7030506@hpe.com>
On 08/11/2016 04:22 PM, Waiman Long wrote:
> On 08/11/2016 03:32 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> It's a real bummer that this all has to be open-coded. I have to wonder
>> if there were any alternatives that you tried that were simpler.
>
> What do you mean by "open-coded"? Do you mean the function can be inlined?
I just mean that it's implementing its own locking instead of being able
to use spinlocks or seqlocks, or some other existing primitive.
>> Is READ_ONCE()/smp_store_release() really strong enough here? It
>> guarantees ordering, but you need ordering *and* a guarantee that your
>> write is visible to the reader. Don't you need actual barriers for
>> that? Otherwise, you might be seeing a stale HPET value, and the spin
>> loop that you did waiting for it to be up-to-date was worthless. The
>> seqlock code, uses barriers, btw.
>
> The cmpxchg() and smp_store_release() act as the lock/unlock sequence
> with the proper barriers. Another important point is that the hpet value
> is visible to the other readers before the sequence number. This is
> what the smp_store_release() is providing. cmpxchg is an actual barrier,
> even though smp_store_release() is not. However, the x86 architecture
> will guarantee the writes are in order, I think.
The contended case (where HPET_SEQ_LOCKED(seq)) doesn't do the cmpxchg.
So it's entirely relying on the READ_ONCE() on the "reader" side and
the cmpxchg/smp_store_release() on the "writer". This probably works in
practice, but I'm not sure it's guaranteed behavior.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-12 0:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-10 18:29 [RESEND PATCH v4] x86/hpet: Reduce HPET counter read contention Waiman Long
2016-08-10 18:37 ` Long, Wai Man
2016-08-10 19:01 ` Prarit Bhargava
2016-08-11 19:32 ` Dave Hansen
2016-08-11 23:22 ` Waiman Long
2016-08-12 0:31 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2016-08-12 17:01 ` Waiman Long
2016-08-12 17:16 ` Dave Hansen
2016-08-12 18:31 ` Waiman Long
2016-08-12 20:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-12 21:10 ` Waiman Long
2016-08-12 21:20 ` Dave Hansen
2016-08-12 21:32 ` Waiman Long
2016-08-12 21:16 ` Dave Hansen
2016-08-12 21:32 ` Waiman Long
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-06-17 20:20 Waiman Long
2016-07-13 15:02 ` Waiman Long
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