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From: zhong jiang <zhongjiang@huawei.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, vbabka@suse.cz, rientjes@google.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@huawei.com>,
	Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: fix oom work when memory is under pressure
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 21:13:21 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57D7FB71.9090102@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160912174445.GC14997@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 2016/9/13 1:44, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 12-09-16 21:42:28, zhong jiang wrote:
>> On 2016/9/12 19:13, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> On Mon 12-09-16 17:51:06, zhong jiang wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> hi,  Michal
>>>> oom reaper indeed can accelerate the recovery of memory, but the patch
>>>> solve the extreme scenario, I hit it by runing trinity. I think the
>>>> scenario can happen whether oom reaper or not.
>>> could you be more specific about the case when the oom reaper and the
>>> current oom code led to the oom deadlock?
>> It is not the oom deadlock.  It will lead to hungtask.  The explain is
>> as follows.
>>
>> process A occupy a resource and lock it. then A need to allocate
>> memory when memory is very low. at the some time, oom will come up and
>> return directly. because it find other process is freeing memory in
>> same zone.
>>
>> however, the freed memory is taken away by another process.
>> it will lead to A oom again and again.
>>
>> process B still wait some resource holded by A. so B will obtain the
>> lock until A release the resource. therefor, if A spend much time to
>> obtain memory, B will hungtask.
> OK, I see what you are aiming for. And indeed such a starvation and
> resulting priority inversion is possible. It is a hard problem to solve
> and your patch doesn't address it either. You can spend enough time
> reclaiming and retrying without ever getting to the oom path to trigger
> this hungtask warning.
  Yes.
> If you want to solve this problem properly then you would have to give
> tasks which are looping in the page allocator access to some portion of
> memory reserves. This is quite tricky to do right, though.
  To use some portion of memory reserves is almost no effect in a so starvation scenario.
   I think the hungtask still will occur. it can not  solve the problem primarily.
> Retry counters with the fail path have been proposed in the past and not
> accepted.
  The above patch have been tested by runing the trinity.  The question is fixed. 
  Is there  any reasonable reason oppose to the patch ?  or it will bring in  any side-effect.

 Thanks
zhongjiang


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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-13 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-06 14:47 [PATCH] mm: fix oom work when memory is under pressure zhongjiang
2016-09-09 11:44 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-12  9:51   ` zhong jiang
2016-09-12 11:13     ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-12 13:42       ` zhong jiang
2016-09-12 17:44         ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-13 13:13           ` zhong jiang [this message]
2016-09-13 13:28             ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-13 14:01               ` zhong jiang
2016-09-14  7:13               ` zhong jiang
2016-09-14  8:42                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-14  8:50                   ` zhong jiang
2016-09-14  9:05                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-14  8:52                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-14  9:25                     ` zhong jiang
2016-09-14 11:29                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-14 13:52                         ` zhong jiang
2016-09-18  6:00                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-18  6:13                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-09-19  4:44                               ` zhong jiang
2016-09-19  7:15                             ` zhong jiang
2016-09-16 22:13                     ` Hugh Dickins
2016-09-17 15:56                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-18  4:04                       ` zhong jiang
2016-09-18 14:42                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-19 17:27                           ` Hugh Dickins

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