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From: Wols Lists <antlists@youngman.org.uk>
To: Phil Turmel <philip@turmel.org>,
	ian_bruce@mail.ru, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] non-metadata arrays cannot use more than 27 component devices
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 23:55:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58B21987.6060604@youngman.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5172e2ab-e193-477b-52c4-86fbab0d52fe@turmel.org>

On 25/02/17 23:41, Phil Turmel wrote:
>> Is there a sound technical reason not to go there, or is it simply a
>> > case of "learn another tool for that job"? The less tools I have to know
>> > the better, imho.

> Um, no, imnsho.  Learn new tools when you need them.

I don't have a problem with that. All too often people use the tool
they're familiar with when it's the wrong tool. But there's a reason
they do that - it's a familiar tool!
> 
> Linux raid has no formal mechanism to cleanly separate a mirror from a
> running array, access it as a backup, and not risk corruption when
> re-attaching it to the array.  Most filesystems write to the partition
> when mounting, even for read-only mounts.  You cannot safely access the
> disconnected member except via pure block reads.

Because to do so doesn't make sense? Or because nobody's bothered to do
it? I get grumpy when people implement corner cases without bothering to
implement the logically sensible options - bit like those extremely
annoying dialog boxes that give you three choices, "yes", "no", "yes to
all". What about no to all?

I feel like mirror-raid is perfect for doing backups. I take your point
that linux hasn't implemented that feature (particularly well), but
surely it's a feature that *should* be there. I know I know - "patches
welcome" :-)

Cheers,
Wol

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-25 23:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-24 12:08 [BUG] non-metadata arrays cannot use more than 27 component devices ian_bruce
2017-02-24 15:20 ` Phil Turmel
2017-02-24 16:40   ` ian_bruce
2017-02-24 20:46     ` Phil Turmel
2017-02-25 20:05       ` Anthony Youngman
2017-02-25 22:00         ` Phil Turmel
2017-02-25 23:30           ` Wols Lists
2017-02-25 23:41             ` Phil Turmel
2017-02-25 23:55               ` Wols Lists [this message]
2017-02-26  0:07                 ` Phil Turmel
2017-03-01 15:02                   ` Wols Lists
2017-03-01 17:23                     ` Phil Turmel
2017-03-01 18:13                       ` Phil Turmel
2017-03-01 19:50                         ` Anthony Youngman
2017-03-01 22:20                           ` Phil Turmel
2017-02-27  5:55 ` NeilBrown
2017-02-28 10:25   ` ian_bruce
2017-02-28 20:29     ` NeilBrown
2017-03-01 13:05       ` ian_bruce

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