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From: Yu Zhang <yu.c.zhang@linux.intel.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: about fully UMIP support in Xen
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 17:48:30 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58F7326E.2000407@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58F7477C0200007800151DBD@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>



On 4/19/2017 5:18 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 19.04.17 at 10:48, <yu.c.zhang@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>     I saw that commit 8c14e5f provides emulations for UMIP affected
>> instructions. But realized that xen does not have logic to expose UMIP
>> feature to guests - you have sent out one in
>> https://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2016-12/msg00552.html
>> to emulate the cpuid leaf, but seems it was only a software solution and
>> have not get merged yet.
>>     So I wonder do you have any specific plan to fully support the UMIP,
>> i.e. in Xen 4.10? :-)
> It would be nice, but I think there are caveats: While PV guests
> _shouldn't_ use any of the affected instructions, we can't blindly
> assume they don't. Hence we'd have to emulate them (producing
> to be determined data, e.g. all zeros). Luckily we don't have to
> care about VM86 mode, as for code running there emulating the
> instructions would be mandatory (as they're e.g. needed for CPU
> family detection, since the recommended approach to tell [iirc]
> 286 from 386 doesn't reliably work there).

Thanks, Jan.
You mean if UMIP is enabled in xen, and dom0 triggers affected 
instructions, 0 should
be returned? Does hypervisor need to differentiate dom0 kernel and its 
user space?

> For HVM guests the feature is of no interest to Xen itself anyway,
> i.e. all we'd need is allow them to enable the CR4 bit (which my
> emulation patch did as a side effect, but that patch has been
> deferred until after Andrew manages to put in some more CPUID
> work; that single hunk could certainly be split out if desired).

By "CPUID work", I guess you changes needed in the xen/tools/gen-cpuid.py,
not just emulating one to the guest, right?

Yu


> Jan
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-19  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-19  8:48 about fully UMIP support in Xen Yu Zhang
2017-04-19  9:18 ` Jan Beulich
2017-04-19  9:48   ` Yu Zhang [this message]
2017-04-19  9:59     ` Andrew Cooper
2017-04-19 11:16       ` Yu Zhang
2017-04-19 11:19     ` Jan Beulich
2017-04-19 11:44       ` Yu Zhang
2017-04-19 13:34         ` Jan Beulich
2017-04-19 13:49           ` Andrew Cooper
2017-04-19 14:06             ` Jan Beulich
2017-04-19 14:17               ` Andrew Cooper
2017-04-19 14:27                 ` Jan Beulich
2017-04-19 14:35                   ` Andrew Cooper
2017-04-19 13:50           ` Yu Zhang
2017-04-19 13:58             ` Andrew Cooper
2017-04-19 14:07               ` Jan Beulich
2017-04-19 14:09                 ` Andrew Cooper
2017-04-20  7:15                   ` Yu Zhang
2017-04-20  9:47                     ` Jan Beulich
2017-04-20  9:53                       ` Yu Zhang
2017-04-20 10:01                         ` Jan Beulich
2017-04-20 10:10                           ` Yu Zhang
2017-04-20 10:23                             ` Andrew Cooper
2017-04-20 10:38                               ` Yu Zhang

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