From: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
Cc: "xdp-newbies@vger.kernel.org" <xdp-newbies@vger.kernel.org>,
"Daniel Borkmann" <borkmann@iogearbox.net>,
"Andy Gospodarek" <andy@greyhouse.net>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"Paweł Staszewski" <pstaszewski@itcare.pl>
Subject: Re: XDP redirect measurements, gotchas and tracepoints
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 10:17:59 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <599C6747.8010005@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170822170913.35umf4j6hlmcnwtm@ast-mbp>
On 08/22/2017 10:09 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 08:37:10AM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Once tx-ing netdev added to devmap we can enable xdp on it automatically?
>>
>> I think you are referring to Gotcha-2 here:
>
> oops. yes :)
>
>>
>> Second gotcha(2): you cannot TX out a device, unless it also have a
>> xdp bpf program attached. (This is an implicit dependency, as the
>> driver code need to setup XDP resources before it can ndo_xdp_xmit).
>>
>> Yes, we should work on improving this situation. Auto enabling XDP
>> when a netdev is added to a devmap is a good solution. Currently this
>> is tied to loading an XDP bpf_prog. Do you propose loading a dummy
>> bpf_prog on the netdev? (then we need to handle 1. not replacing
>> existing bpf_prog, 2. on take-down don't remove "later" loaded
>> bpf_prog).
>
> right. these things need to be taken care of.
> Technically for ndo_xdp_xmit to work the program doesn't need
> to be attached, but the device needs to be in xdp mode with
> configured xdp tx rings.
> The easiest, of course, is just to document it :)
> and may be add some sort of warning that if netdev is added
> to devmap and it's not in xdp mode, return warning or error.
>
When I wrote this I assumed some user space piece could
load the "dummy" nop program on devices as needed. It seemed
easier than putting semi-complex logic in the kernel to load
programs on update_elem, but only if the user hasn't already
loaded a program and then unload it but again only if some
criteria is met. Then we would have one more kernel path into
load/unload BPF programs and would need all the tests and what
not.
+1 for documenting and userland usability patches.
.John
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-22 17:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-21 19:25 XDP redirect measurements, gotchas and tracepoints Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-08-21 22:35 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-22 6:37 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-08-22 17:09 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-22 17:17 ` John Fastabend [this message]
2017-08-23 8:56 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-08-22 18:02 ` Michael Chan
2017-08-22 18:17 ` John Fastabend
2017-08-22 18:30 ` Duyck, Alexander H
2017-08-22 20:04 ` Michael Chan
2017-08-23 1:06 ` Alexander Duyck
2017-08-23 6:59 ` Michael Chan
2017-08-23 8:29 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-08-25 3:36 ` Michael Chan
2017-08-25 12:45 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-08-25 15:10 ` John Fastabend
2017-08-25 15:28 ` Michael Chan
2017-08-28 16:02 ` Andy Gospodarek
2017-08-28 16:11 ` Alexander Duyck
2017-08-29 13:26 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-08-29 16:23 ` Alexander Duyck
2017-08-29 19:02 ` Andy Gospodarek
2017-08-29 19:52 ` Alexander Duyck
2017-08-28 16:14 ` John Fastabend
2017-08-28 19:39 ` Andy Gospodarek
2017-08-23 14:51 ` Alexander Duyck
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