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From: Inki Dae <inki.dae@samsung.com>
To: Daniel Stone <daniel@fooishbar.org>
Cc: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
	linux-samsung-soc <linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] exynos-drm-next
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 07:51:29 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5A0CC4F1.4090505@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPj87rNTgnoE49k4bbrj=gyZsWVE9p6jxboLX0OSmw5V-kpt2Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Daniel,

2017년 11월 15일 19:27에 Daniel Stone 이(가) 쓴 글:
> Hi Inki,
> 
> On 15 November 2017 at 01:26, Inki Dae <inki.dae@samsung.com> wrote:
>> 2017년 11월 14일 13:22에 Dave Airlie 이(가) 쓴 글:
>>> On 26 October 2017 at 11:37, Inki Dae <inki.dae@samsung.com> wrote:
>>>>    Ps. we are reviewing IPP v2 driver[1] which controls post processor devices
>>>>        such as FIMC, GScaler and Rotator of Exynos SoC. So I plan to request
>>>>        git pull one more time after review.
>>>
>>> I dropped the ball a bit here, I do think the second pull with IPP is
>>> probably a bit late,
>>> I think I'd like more assurance that the UAPI for IPP is to be used in
>>> some upstream
>>> shipping project (forks of mpv not withstanding, unless this fork
>>> ships in some distro
>>> or product).
>>
>> I also commented same thing internally to author - Marek - of IPP v2 but I thought existing one is really ugly thing so may be better to change it as soon as possible before other users use this one.
>> Anyway, we will merge user space for IPP v2 to libdrm first, and then Linux platform. I hope IPPv2 would be merged as soon as possible in next turn.
> 
> This is putting the cart before the horse a little bit. This is the
> process for merging new DRM API:
> 
> Prepare the kernel and libdrm/etc patches exposing the new API, and
> also develop a _real_ user for it. Using IPP as an example, an
> acceptable userspace would be VLC, Kodi, Weston, Xorg, or similar.
> libdrm sample clients are explicitly not enough for this.
> 
> Once this is done, you should get review/ack for all of these. The
> kernel code and API should have review for good API (see for example
> Daniel Vetter's 'botching up ioctls' documentation) and code, and the
> userspace (VLC/Kodi/...) should have review for both code correctness
> as well as an explicit check from the userspace side that they feel it
> is good API which works for them. If the work just exists in a fork
> which has not got real upstream review, this is also not enough.
> 
> When all parts have review, you can merge the new kernel API with a
> pointer to the userspace review, explicitly stating that they feel it
> is acceptable. Once the kernel code has landed in a non-rebasing tree
> (one which Dave will be sending as a pull), libdrm code can be merged,
> and then the userspace code can finally be merged.

I know that. Before requesting git-pull I commented like below to the author,
"I think other maintainer will require real user space - not thing like libdrm - which uses new ABI.
The solution I think would be to apply the new ABI to tdm exynos backend of Tizen platform below,
https://review.tizen.org/git/?p=platform/adaptation/samsung_exynos/libtdm-exynos.git;a=blob;f=src/tdm_exynos_pp.c;h=db20e6f226d313672d1d468e06d80526ea30121c;hb=refs/heads/tizen"

Anyway, Linux platform I mentioned is _real_ user, Tizen[1], for it. Sorry about it. I didn't comment exactly what is the Linux platform.
And thanks for explanation.

[1] https://www.tizen.org/

Thanks,
Inki Dae

> 
> Cheers,
> Daniel
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> 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-15 22:51 UTC|newest]

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2017-10-26  1:37 ` [GIT PULL] exynos-drm-next Inki Dae
2017-11-14  4:22   ` Dave Airlie
2017-11-15  1:26     ` Inki Dae
2017-11-15 10:27       ` Daniel Stone
2017-11-15 22:51         ` Inki Dae [this message]
2017-11-20  7:33       ` Daniel Vetter
2017-11-28 13:45         ` Marek Szyprowski
2017-11-29  9:52           ` Daniel Vetter
2017-11-28 22:40         ` Inki Dae
2026-05-21 14:36 Inki Dae
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2026-02-01 14:39 Inki Dae
2025-09-14  3:55 Inki Dae
2024-11-04  3:13 Inki Dae
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2024-09-06  9:13 ` Inki Dae
2024-09-09  0:33   ` 대인기/Tizen Platform Lab(SR)/삼성전자
2024-07-03  7:59 Inki Dae
2024-07-05  9:25 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-04-25  3:43 Inki Dae
2023-12-12  5:11 Inki Dae
2023-12-12  5:11 ` Inki Dae
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2023-08-09  6:02 ` Inki Dae
2023-08-09  6:02   ` Inki Dae
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2023-03-28  4:05 ` Inki Dae
2023-03-28  4:05   ` Inki Dae
2023-03-28 17:31   ` Daniel Vetter
2023-03-28 17:31     ` Daniel Vetter
2023-03-29  5:39     ` 대인기
2023-03-29  5:39       ` 대인기
2023-04-17  1:17       ` Inki Dae
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2023-01-30  5:10 ` Inki Dae
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2022-09-26  2:07 ` Inki Dae
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2022-07-12  6:10 ` Inki Dae
2022-07-12  6:10   ` Inki Dae
2021-12-22  3:53 Inki Dae
2021-12-22  3:53 ` Inki Dae
2021-08-21 17:28 Inki Dae
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2021-06-11  2:59 ` Inki Dae
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2021-03-30  8:29 ` Inki Dae
2021-03-30  8:29   ` Inki Dae
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2020-12-01  4:50 ` Inki Dae
2020-12-01  4:50   ` Inki Dae
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2020-09-22  8:38 ` Inki Dae
2020-09-22  8:38   ` Inki Dae
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2020-05-20  5:33 ` Inki Dae
2020-05-20  5:33   ` Inki Dae
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2020-03-16  1:09 ` Inki Dae
2020-03-16  1:09   ` Inki Dae
2020-03-18  2:17   ` Dave Airlie
2020-03-18  2:17     ` Dave Airlie
2020-03-18  3:16     ` Inki Dae
2020-03-18  3:16       ` Inki Dae
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2020-01-21  0:52 ` Inki Dae
2020-01-21  0:52   ` Inki Dae
2019-10-28 12:34 Inki Dae
2019-10-28 12:34 ` Inki Dae
2019-09-01 12:06 Inki Dae
2019-06-27 14:28 Inki Dae
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2019-04-22  9:51 ` Inki Dae
2019-04-24  2:03   ` Dave Airlie
2019-04-24  2:11     ` Inki Dae
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2019-02-07 11:31 ` Inki Dae
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2018-12-05  9:40 ` Inki Dae
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2018-10-01  8:01 ` Inki Dae
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2018-07-25  8:02 ` Inki Dae
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2018-05-14  5:40 ` Inki Dae
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2018-01-02  0:36 ` Inki Dae
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2017-08-25  6:18 ` Inki Dae
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2017-04-18  2:05 ` Inki Dae
2017-04-18  2:15   ` Inki Dae
2017-04-18  2:21   ` Andi Shyti
2017-04-18  2:30     ` Inki Dae
2017-04-18  7:11       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2017-04-18 23:35   ` Dave Airlie
2017-04-19  1:56     ` Inki Dae
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2017-02-07  7:07 ` Inki Dae
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2017-01-31  0:46 ` Inki Dae
2017-01-31  9:11   ` Inki Dae
2016-12-06  0:15 Inki Dae
2016-09-30 16:26 Inki Dae
2016-07-13 14:30 Inki Dae
2016-04-30  3:01 Inki Dae
2015-12-14  4:56 Inki Dae
2015-10-28  6:55 Inki Dae
2015-10-28 10:15 ` Daniel Stone
2015-10-28 10:48   ` Inki Dae
2015-10-28 10:58     ` Daniel Stone
2015-10-28 11:00       ` Daniel Stone
2015-10-28 11:16         ` Inki Dae
2015-10-28 11:52           ` Daniel Stone
2015-10-28 12:37             ` Inki Dae
2015-11-02 23:10               ` Dave Airlie
2015-11-03  2:11                 ` Inki Dae
2015-11-03  2:36                   ` Dave Airlie
2015-11-03  4:36               ` Inki Dae
2015-11-03 18:59                 ` Daniel Stone
2015-10-28 10:17 ` Inki Dae
2015-09-02 14:35 inki.dae
2015-08-30 16:22 inki.dae
2015-08-16 15:20 inki.dae
2015-06-22 16:42 inki.dae
2015-04-13  3:04 Inki Dae
2015-01-25 13:19 inki.dae
2014-11-25 12:41 Inki Dae
2014-08-04  5:02 Inki Dae
2014-06-02  6:22 Inki Dae
2014-04-03 17:34 inki.dae
2014-04-04  4:59 ` Tomasz Figa
2014-04-04  5:34   ` Inki Dae
2014-04-04  7:28     ` Tomasz Figa
2014-04-04  7:48       ` Inki Dae
2014-04-04  8:05         ` Tomasz Figa
2014-04-04  8:26           ` Inki Dae
2014-03-21  8:27 Inki Dae
2013-09-05  5:53 Inki Dae
2013-04-29  6:36 Inki Dae
2013-04-17  5:36 Inki Dae
2013-02-15  4:24 Inki Dae
2012-11-20  7:35 Inki Dae
2012-11-20  8:44 ` Marek Szyprowski
2012-11-21  7:29 ` Inki Dae
2012-10-04  2:12 Inki Dae

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