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From: Thara Gopinath <thara.gopinath@linaro.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, rui.zhang@intel.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, amit.kachhap@gmail.com,
	viresh.kumar@linaro.org, javi.merino@kernel.org,
	edubezval@gmail.com, daniel.lezcano@linaro.org,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, nicolas.dechesne@linaro.org,
	bjorn.andersson@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce Thermal Pressure
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 13:28:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5CB76233.9080508@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190417055514.GA27400@gmail.com>

On 04/17/2019 01:55 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
>> * Thara Gopinath <thara.gopinath@linaro.org> wrote:
>>
>>> The test results below shows 3-5% improvement in performance when
>>> using the third solution compared to the default system today where
>>> scheduler is unware of cpu capacity limitations due to thermal events.
>>
>> The numbers look very promising!
>>
>> I've rearranged the results to make the performance properties of the 
>> various approaches and parameters easier to see:
>>
>>                                          (seconds, lower is better)
>>
>> 			                 Hackbench   Aobench   Dhrystone
>>                                          =========   =======   =========
>> Vanilla kernel (No Thermal Pressure)         10.21    141.58        1.14
>> Instantaneous thermal pressure               10.16    141.63        1.15
>> Thermal Pressure Averaging:
>>       - PELT fmwk                             9.88    134.48        1.19
>>       - non-PELT Algo. Decay : 500 ms         9.94    133.62        1.09
>>       - non-PELT Algo. Decay : 250 ms         7.52    137.22        1.012
>>       - non-PELT Algo. Decay : 125 ms         9.87    137.55        1.12
> 
> So what I forgot to say is that IMO your results show robust improvements 
> over the vanilla kernel of around 5%, with a relatively straightforward 
> thermal pressure metric. So I suspect we could do something like this, if 
> there was a bit more measurements done to get the best decay period 
> established - the 125-250-500 msecs results seem a bit coarse and not 
> entirely unambiguous.

To give you the background, I started with decay period of 500 ms. No
other reason except the previous version of rt-pressure that existed in
the scheduler employed a 500 ms decay period. Then the idea was to
decrease the decay period by half and see what happens and so on. But I
agree, that it is a bit coarse. I will probably get around to
implementing some of your suggestions to capture more granular results
in the next few weeks.
> 
> In terms of stddev: the perf stat --pre hook could be used to add a dummy 
> benchmark run, to heat up the test system, to get more reliable, less 
> noisy numbers?
> 
> BTW., that big improvement in hackbench results to 7.52 at 250 msecs, is 
> that real, or a fluke perhaps?
For me, it is an anomaly. Having said that, I did rerun the tests with
this configuration at least twice(if not more) and the results were
similar. It is an anomaly because I have no explanation as to why there
is so much improvement at the 250 ms decay period.

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	Ingo
> 


-- 
Regards
Thara

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-17 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-16 19:38 [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce Thermal Pressure Thara Gopinath
2019-04-16 19:38 ` [PATCH V2 1/3] Calculate " Thara Gopinath
2019-04-18 10:14   ` Quentin Perret
2019-04-24  4:13     ` Thara Gopinath
2019-04-24 16:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-24 16:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-25 10:57   ` Quentin Perret
2019-04-25 12:45     ` Vincent Guittot
2019-04-25 12:47       ` Quentin Perret
2019-04-26 14:17       ` Thara Gopinath
2019-05-08 12:41         ` Quentin Perret
2019-04-16 19:38 ` [PATCH V2 2/3] sched/fair: update cpu_capcity to reflect thermal pressure Thara Gopinath
2019-04-16 19:38 ` [PATCH V3 3/3] thermal/cpu-cooling: Update thermal pressure in case of a maximum frequency capping Thara Gopinath
2019-04-18  9:48   ` Quentin Perret
2019-04-23 22:38     ` Thara Gopinath
2019-04-24 15:56       ` Ionela Voinescu
2019-04-26 10:24         ` Thara Gopinath
2019-04-25 10:45       ` Quentin Perret
2019-04-25 12:04         ` Vincent Guittot
2019-04-25 12:50           ` Quentin Perret
2019-04-26 13:47         ` Thara Gopinath
2019-04-24 16:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-17  5:36 ` [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce Thermal Pressure Ingo Molnar
2019-04-17  5:55   ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-17 17:28     ` Thara Gopinath [this message]
2019-04-17 17:18   ` Thara Gopinath
2019-04-17 18:29     ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-18  0:07       ` Thara Gopinath
2019-04-18  9:22       ` Quentin Perret
2019-04-24 16:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-25 17:33         ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-25 17:44           ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-26  7:08             ` Vincent Guittot
2019-04-26  8:35               ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-24 15:57 ` Ionela Voinescu
2019-04-26 11:50   ` Thara Gopinath
2019-04-26 14:46     ` Ionela Voinescu
2019-04-29 13:29 ` Ionela Voinescu
2019-04-30 14:39   ` Ionela Voinescu
2019-04-30 16:10     ` Thara Gopinath
2019-05-02 10:44       ` Ionela Voinescu
2019-04-30 15:57   ` Thara Gopinath
2019-04-30 16:02     ` Thara Gopinath

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