From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51989) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eoRLI-0002Tk-EG for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 05:09:41 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eoRLD-0005fB-Fm for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 05:09:40 -0500 Received: from mx3-rdu2.redhat.com ([66.187.233.73]:51918 helo=mx1.redhat.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eoRLD-0005eo-A2 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 05:09:35 -0500 References: <20180214001105.21508-1-mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20180214165040.GA2508@work-vm> <151863233842.4211.15732702297985774243@sif> <20180216115721.GB3000@work-vm> From: Paolo Bonzini Message-ID: <5ad81069-6ddd-eecc-b1dd-b3aa8f184812@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 11:09:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180216115721.GB3000@work-vm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [qemu-web PATCH] Add a blog post documenting Spectre/Meltdown options for QEMU 2.11.1 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" , Michael Roth Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Peter Maydell , Thomas Huth , Eduardo Habkost , Cornelia Huck , Christian Borntraeger , Suraj Jitindar Singh , David Gibson On 16/02/2018 12:57, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote: > It's a bit weird to end up pointing to them to a lkml post; > Paolo: Any ideas on anything better to say? IBRS is really that much slower than retpolines on pre-Skylake machines, so it's a hard call to tell people to use it. It looks like Intel is going to add Yet Another Bit to clean up the Skylake mess; in the meanwhile I would just use retpolines even on Skylake and newer machines, because the Spectre attacks are much more theoretical than Meltdown, but it's good to point out the issue for the paranoid folks. Paolo