From: Rahul Karnik <deathdruid@gmail.com>
To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
Cc: Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>,
Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>, Diego Calleja <diegocg@teleline.es>,
Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>,
wli@holomorphy.com, aebr@win.tue.nl, solt2@dns.toxicfilms.tv,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: starting with 2.7
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:31:39 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5b64f7f0501040931699220ad@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1050103183503.30038C-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.com>
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:42:24 -0500 (EST), Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Horst von Brand wrote:
> > > APM vs. ACPI - shutdown doesn't reliably power down about half of the
> > > machines I use, and all five laptops have working suspend and non-working
> > > resume. APM seems to be pretty unsupported beyond "use ACPI for that."
> >
> > Many never machines just don't have APM.
>
> What's your point? I'm damn sure there are more machines with APM than 386
> CPUs, AHA1540 SCSI controllers, or a lot of other supported stuff. Most
> machines which have APM at all have a functional power off capability,
> which is a desirable thing for most people.
The point is not that the kernel should not support APM because it is
superceded by ACPI, but that your laptops do not support APM properly.
Did they work correctly with APM in 2.4? If so, we have a regression;
otherwise complain to the laptop vendor, they do not consider APM to
be a high enough priority.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-01-04 17:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 222+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-02 20:03 starting with 2.7 Maciej Soltysiak
2005-01-02 20:08 ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-01-02 20:36 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-02 21:01 ` Re[2]: " Maciej Soltysiak
2005-01-02 21:24 ` Andries Brouwer
2005-01-02 21:42 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-02 22:15 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-02 22:49 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-02 23:14 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-01-03 0:30 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-03 0:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-03 1:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-03 5:33 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-01-03 12:33 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-03 21:38 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-01-03 22:09 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-03 23:53 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-04 5:06 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-01-04 5:29 ` Sean
2005-01-05 8:42 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-05 9:13 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-01-04 13:17 ` Horst von Brand
2005-01-03 13:24 ` Diego Calleja
2005-01-03 13:47 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-03 17:18 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-03 18:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-03 18:41 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-03 18:36 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-01-03 18:59 ` Russell King
2005-01-03 19:07 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-03 19:26 ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-01-03 21:06 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-04 0:24 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-01-04 3:12 ` Thomas Graf
2005-01-04 5:33 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-01-04 15:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-04 15:58 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-04 17:38 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-01-04 23:51 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-05 0:09 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-05 18:30 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-05 18:56 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-05 19:08 ` Chris Friesen
2005-01-04 15:34 ` Horst von Brand
2005-01-04 21:19 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-01-04 21:43 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-01-04 23:50 ` Gene Heskett
2005-01-05 5:37 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-01-05 7:04 ` Gene Heskett
2005-01-05 8:33 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-01-06 18:08 ` Paul Rolland
2005-01-06 21:08 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-06 22:50 ` Gene Heskett
2005-01-07 14:34 ` Paul Rolland
2005-01-05 0:00 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-05 0:33 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-01-05 18:40 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-03 21:13 ` Horst von Brand
2005-01-03 21:35 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-01-04 0:02 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-04 3:32 ` Gene Heskett
2005-01-05 9:27 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-05 10:57 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-06 3:15 ` Ed Tomlinson
2005-01-06 14:03 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-01-06 16:34 ` Ramón Rey Vicente
2005-01-06 19:32 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-06 19:58 ` Diego Calleja
2005-01-06 22:31 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-07 8:33 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-01-06 20:48 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-03 19:28 ` Jens Axboe
2005-01-03 22:39 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-04 7:46 ` Jens Axboe
2005-01-04 18:34 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-03 21:03 ` Horst von Brand
2005-01-03 23:42 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-04 17:31 ` Rahul Karnik [this message]
2005-01-04 18:44 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-04 21:04 ` Pavel Machek
2005-01-04 21:28 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-04 21:51 ` APM vs. ACPI, janitor wanted? [was Re: starting with 2.7] Pavel Machek
2005-01-04 12:57 ` starting with 2.7 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-04 15:08 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-04 15:34 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-04 16:53 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-04 19:57 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-04 20:30 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-01-04 20:34 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-04 20:55 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-04 21:23 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-04 22:01 ` Andries Brouwer
2005-01-04 21:01 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-01-06 9:45 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-06 15:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-01-06 16:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-06 14:38 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-04 20:17 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-01-05 0:02 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-05 5:49 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-01-04 2:06 ` Roman Zippel
2005-01-04 2:36 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-01-03 12:52 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-03 15:52 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-03 17:15 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-01-02 23:14 ` Diego Calleja
2005-01-02 23:21 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2005-01-03 9:57 ` Reviving the concept of a stable series (was Re: starting with 2.7) L. A. Walsh
2005-01-03 12:17 ` Robert W. Fuller
2005-01-03 13:58 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-03 14:24 ` Horst von Brand
2005-01-04 4:56 ` David Lang
2005-01-04 14:52 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-04 7:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-09 0:13 ` Reviving the concept of a stable series L A Walsh
2005-01-10 13:44 ` Adam Sampson
2005-01-10 16:50 ` Horst von Brand
2005-01-10 19:24 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-10 20:50 ` jmerkey
2005-01-03 22:20 ` Reviving the concept of a stable series (was Re: starting with 2.7) Bill Davidsen
2005-01-04 13:08 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-04 18:20 ` Dave Jones
2005-01-06 15:31 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-06 18:23 ` [PATCH] zap the ACPI shutdown bug (was Re: Reviving the concept of a stable series) Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-06 19:07 ` Dave Jones
2005-01-06 21:19 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-03 0:19 ` starting with 2.7 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-03 0:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-03 0:49 ` Adam Mercer
2005-01-03 1:20 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-03 12:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-01-03 1:21 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-03 22:26 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-03 15:20 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-03 15:29 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-03 15:37 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-03 17:39 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2005-01-03 20:59 ` Horst von Brand
2005-01-03 21:47 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2005-01-03 21:48 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-03 22:03 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2005-01-03 22:10 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-03 22:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-03 23:41 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2005-01-04 5:46 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-01-04 6:36 ` Al Viro
2005-01-04 10:23 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2005-01-04 12:36 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-04 12:59 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2005-01-04 20:09 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-01-04 20:17 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-05 6:20 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-01-05 11:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-04 20:24 ` Horst von Brand
2005-01-05 13:31 ` Helge Hafting
2005-01-05 19:16 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-05 21:19 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2005-01-04 9:17 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-01-04 13:27 ` Horst von Brand
2005-01-04 14:27 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2005-01-04 15:31 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-04 16:51 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2005-01-04 20:58 ` Horst von Brand
2005-01-04 23:07 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2005-01-04 23:18 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-04 22:04 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-03 22:01 ` Sean
2005-01-04 5:44 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-01-04 13:11 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-03 23:21 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-03 18:18 ` Wakko Warner
2005-01-03 23:06 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-03 15:18 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-03 15:34 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-03 15:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-03 15:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-01-03 23:34 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-04 7:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-01-04 13:14 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-04 17:47 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-04 20:18 ` David Lang
2005-01-04 23:03 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2005-01-05 7:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-01-06 19:35 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-06 23:33 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2005-01-07 1:51 ` David Lang
2005-01-07 5:48 ` John Richard Moser
2005-01-03 22:53 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-06 3:52 ` Ian Kent
2005-01-06 20:02 ` John Richard Moser
2005-01-06 21:29 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-07 0:06 ` John Richard Moser
2005-01-07 16:34 ` M. Edward Borasky
2005-01-07 17:25 ` John Richard Moser
2005-01-09 2:31 ` M. Edward Borasky
2005-01-09 3:01 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-01-09 3:08 ` John Richard Moser
2005-01-09 23:02 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-10 0:30 ` John Richard Moser
2005-01-10 1:26 ` Indrek Kruusa
2005-01-10 1:28 ` Dave Airlie
2005-01-10 2:16 ` John Richard Moser
2005-01-10 4:51 ` Gene Heskett
2005-01-10 18:27 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-10 20:11 ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-10 19:55 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-10 21:08 ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-11 16:10 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-10 22:19 ` Dave Airlie
2005-01-11 0:54 ` Matt Mackall
2005-01-11 16:10 ` Alan Cox
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-01-04 16:07 Indrek Kruusa
2005-01-07 11:07 Nicolas Mailhot
2005-01-07 11:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-07 11:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-07 17:34 ` John Richard Moser
2005-01-08 15:45 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-11 7:17 ` John Richard Moser
2005-01-11 16:10 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-11 17:36 ` John Richard Moser
2005-01-11 19:59 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-01-10 21:32 ` Bill Davidsen
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